Message from @Ordis

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2020-02-13 16:15:41 UTC  

based on what she ACTUALLY said, not what you interpreted her as having said

2020-02-13 16:16:13 UTC  

Well unless they had a Recording device that is going to be hard when you come midway in convo

2020-02-13 16:16:26 UTC  

I'll settle for close enough

2020-02-13 16:16:47 UTC  

What?

2020-02-13 16:17:00 UTC  

Hi

2020-02-13 16:17:08 UTC  

Hello

2020-02-13 16:17:15 UTC  

I fucked up, lmao

2020-02-13 16:17:19 UTC  

lol

2020-02-13 16:17:21 UTC  

Tried to post the image

2020-02-13 16:17:34 UTC  

Okay, as I'm coming in (I was serving as a welcoming guide for the event for those new and I received complaints, so I headed to her direction) and this is what I heard
"These crackers needs to move aside for us" - ending it w/motioning 1 of her hands to her body/chest area, so I'm assuming to 'us' as her being black, black ppl.
To which I immediately hit her w/my reply of; "Whoa there, how would you like it if some white person came in and dropped the 'n' word like you just did?"

2020-02-13 16:18:17 UTC  

W/someone dropping that loudly at an event, yea I'm there for damage control

2020-02-13 16:18:33 UTC  

You should have just planted a GPS chip on her and then disappear her in the night

2020-02-13 16:18:38 UTC  

>These Ni🅱️🅱️ers needs to move aside for us

2020-02-13 16:18:49 UTC  

It’d be national news

2020-02-13 16:19:14 UTC  

But the C-Word doesn’t have as much “Racial History and Baggage” attached to it

2020-02-13 16:19:17 UTC  

I tried to be as calm and professional as I could to diffuse the situation. The 2 others she was "preaching" to kinda slid away the moment I intervened... so I guess I helped 2 ppl that night? 🤷‍♂️

2020-02-13 16:19:34 UTC  

They were being preached to against their will lol

2020-02-13 16:19:50 UTC  

Does that mean the N-Word has absolutely no meaning in a country like Latvia or Poland?

2020-02-13 16:20:22 UTC  

Or a Central Asian Former USSR Nation

2020-02-13 16:21:33 UTC  

I was going to say probably if they only know the historical connotation of the word and not the way some people in the hood use it

2020-02-13 16:21:56 UTC  

Spppp

2020-02-13 16:22:19 UTC  

A white person can drop the word "nigger" under VERY strict guide rules outlined by Chris Rock. 10 pts to those who know that skit lol

2020-02-13 16:22:46 UTC  

Ok, so firstly, let me just say that, if this is a professional event, she obviously should have exercised more tact than that. So I agree with you, the actual thing she said was not appropriate. However, I think the way in which you handled it - as well-meaning as it was - could have been more effective as well. So like you admitted you just overheard this out of context. I'm guessing you don't know this woman, you don't know what they're talking about or anything. So right off the bat, just going by what you've recounted, I think you came on too strongly.

Maybe a better way of saying the same thing would have been, "Excuse me, ma'am. I couldn't help but overhear your conversation just now and you realize this is a professional event and I felt what you just said was quite disrespectful."

Maybe she still gets angry, but it's a lot softer and more diplomatic than just walking up and saying, "Hey! You can't talk like that!"

2020-02-13 16:23:01 UTC  

Like I have a friend who went on a server I was a mod on to literally fight the mods so he can say the N-word with an a

2020-02-13 16:23:07 UTC  

20 pts to those who don't give a shit and are Chad enough to say nigger instead of N-word

2020-02-13 16:23:19 UTC  

LOL

2020-02-13 16:24:04 UTC  

I didn't outright tell her she can't speak like that, but rather tried to get her to exercise some form of empathy in how she'd feel if the tables were flipped

2020-02-13 16:24:16 UTC  

Her answer showed utter lack of such capacity

2020-02-13 16:24:31 UTC  

So that set the tone for the rest of the interaction

2020-02-13 16:25:50 UTC  

Like I said, my empathy is reserved for those who do have it. If she paused and didn't snap at me in the way she did, I'd have taken a bit more lenient approach following. Instead, she choose poorly

2020-02-13 16:26:43 UTC  

> she choose poorly

This makes it sound like you later pummeled her into the concrete with your spiked bat.

2020-02-13 16:26:51 UTC  

LOL

2020-02-13 16:26:56 UTC  

Mentally maybe

2020-02-13 16:27:06 UTC  

But no, I'm not into physically harming ppl

2020-02-13 16:27:15 UTC  

weak

2020-02-13 16:27:33 UTC  

Again, she might ultimately have responded the same way to me, I don't know. But would you say it's *more likely* she'd have responded better to me?

2020-02-13 16:27:36 UTC  

Tho I suspect I may have lost my professional cool the moment she called me a white supremacist. I had to immediately disengage so I don't get sucked into saying shit publicly that is not venue appropriate

2020-02-13 16:28:40 UTC  

Perhaps? Tho if I were a betting man, I'd wager against you in having any different reaction from her or concluding engagement

2020-02-13 16:33:13 UTC  

Well, if we're measuring the odds, I at least have actual examples I can point to of progressives whom I've engaged with in discussions like this and they treated me well despite disagreement. TYT and Feminist Frequency being the most well-known examples I can think of. I also have talked briefly with the president of BLM NY, Hawk Newsome as another data point.