Message from @Ordis
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And then for the same community to call me a white supremacist? Yea no, fuck off
Ok, so, in your time volunteering, did you ever encounter people who were the victims of crime?
A quarter of them. One in particular that made me sick. Child was sexually abused by a mother's BF
ok
So ... raping a child is obviously a horrible thing. Probably the *most* horrible thing, yes?
Yes. Get to the point
How did you interact with the child?
The most? no ... transitioning them is worse ... sexual trauma can be buried in memory and forgotten
transitioning can't
I did say probably
I was not told of which child. The section I was in was running activities and reading exercises for specific groups and then a rotation based on the group I'm assigned w/and their age. The child's identity was kept private/confidential and was an ongoing investigation. So us (the volunteers) have no idea who other than the 1 staff that reported the signs
We were merely told that we need to keep this as a private affair and that they are informed of a ongoing investigation. To also look for other signs for othe rkids at the group
Which serves as a function not just for confidentiality and privacy protection for the kid. But stops US, the volunteers from giving undue or overwhelming extra attention to the victim whereby making them feel different or uncomfortable from the group. This may be the only venue of equal treatment and normalcy for them.
Marching off a cliff but nobody has the common sense to yell "Stop!"
Ok so ... you didn't know this child was hurt. So if you were reading to the child and the child started acting up and misbehaving or breaking down into depression and not paying attention, or basically doing anything other than what the other kids were doing while you read to them ... your first instinct might be to tell them to get their act together, right?
But then, if you knew what they felt, how they were hurt, you'd treat them differently, right? You'd treat them with love and pity and sympathy and compassion, even though it's not your child, right? They're not *your* responsibility. You didn't do this to them, and maybe you'd forgive them if they told a grown-up off who wasn't understanding. Right?
They became my responsibility the moment I enlisted to volunteer. Way different scenario from engaging in a conversation w/an adult. This is an extreme form of false equivocation
But what about your nonexistent child's nonexistent feelings <:why:462286147473637407>
I knew full well what I was getting into. That wasn't my 1st rodeo
Maru, you're basically saying BLM are children, and I would technically agree with you.
Yes... we're going in circles atm around 1 overriding theme. They're children and are incapable of handling their emotions... which is probably the most benign explanation of their actions compared to the more malignant one, power grabbing
power grabbing is way too smart a motive for it to be accurate
Sigh ... well, I can almost guarantee that, were I in that same situation, the same would not have happened to me. Even though I agree with you on all the stats and everything. Because how I would have handled it would have been different.
I wouldn't have said what you said. "What's that? You think *I'M* a white supremacist? Oh my god, why would you say that? What? No, *of course* black lives matter. I agree, there are racists in this country and times when police use excessive force, but hold on, it's more nuanced than that ..."
And then see how it goes from there. Pacing and leading.
Again, I get that you're not interested in helping them and it's not your job to help them, but do you think that maybe, just maybe, she'd have reacted differently to what I said vs what you said?
I tried that in the past. Got me no where lol
You're talking to someone who volunteered in the inner city ghettos for 3 yrs...
Remind me again what you said to this woman before she went off about lynchings?
<-- Lived in a ghetto for 6 years
tldr was how she should not be so casually using the word "crackers" when addressing white ppl. How would she feel if some white person used the "n" word to address black ppl? And then she replied w/that rofl
That shit escalated right quick
Remind me what she said before that?
Paraphrased theme is boiled down to - White ppl needs to move aside for black ppl in society
The non-paraphrased version is actually more useful to me here, so I can think about what she wanted without it filtered through you
I'm coming into this convo midway as she's mouthing off loudly at a reception area to set things in context. It's meant ot be a professional networking event
based on what she ACTUALLY said, not what you interpreted her as having said
Well unless they had a Recording device that is going to be hard when you come midway in convo
I'll settle for close enough
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