Message from @TheCaledonian

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2020-01-30 12:08:34 UTC  

all that is left wing

2020-01-30 12:09:47 UTC  

limited government authority is the closest thing to a right wing concept there but then in the view of the right traditionally it is only limited insofar as subsidiarity is concerned

2020-01-30 12:10:02 UTC  

local units of governance would still be imbued with tremendous authority

2020-01-30 12:38:47 UTC  

Individualism is left wing? all right then....<:pepelaugh:544857300179877898>

2020-01-30 12:39:08 UTC  

I thought they were supposed to be the 'collectivists' lmao

2020-01-30 12:40:17 UTC  

it was the liberals who put forward the concept of individual rights, who advocated against the collective authority embodied by corporate intermediaries between the individual and the state

2020-01-30 12:43:22 UTC  

sure, non of that excludes a person from being right wing in my eyes though?

2020-01-30 12:44:04 UTC  

depends where you set the center

2020-01-30 12:44:13 UTC  

but all of these concepts have their roots in left wing opposition to the right

2020-01-30 12:47:45 UTC  

true , but after defeating that, liberalism kinda occupies the 'centre' of the political space, especially after the more 'radical' socialists entered the scene.

2020-01-30 12:57:31 UTC  

^

2020-01-30 12:58:00 UTC  

I agree that Liberalism is probably the closest thing to a centrist ideology there is

2020-01-30 13:23:50 UTC  

well with a liberal status quo liberalism is the "center" sure

2020-01-30 16:59:37 UTC  

I'm sure that was the problem

2020-01-30 16:59:55 UTC  

It wasn't authoritarian enough

2020-01-30 17:25:44 UTC  

Muh authoritarianism

2020-01-30 18:52:48 UTC  

Kek.

2020-01-30 18:53:15 UTC  

The guy is practically begging to be the next Hitler.

2020-01-30 19:24:44 UTC  

how?

2020-01-30 20:00:29 UTC  

ah yes, removing all of the opt-ins, opt-outs, rebates and exceptions would have stopped brexit

2020-01-30 20:01:32 UTC  

that definitely wouldn't have swung the vote from 52-48 to 85-15
all those millions of people in the UK who are just creaming themselves thinking of a centralised EU army and using the euro

2020-01-30 21:43:48 UTC  

I bought a phat cigar for tomorrow night

2020-01-31 07:05:06 UTC  

>union without opt-in, without opt-outs

Was he thinking of growing a mustache lately?

2020-01-31 07:25:00 UTC  

I wouldn't put it past him. Sure will make the EU more popular, if only because the alternative is forbidden!

2020-01-31 08:32:24 UTC  

>Polish government is re-elected
>EU big angry because muh nationalismuss bæd
>Poland says fuck off EU
>Poland holds a Polexit referendum
>Polexit wins
>Poland leaves EU, with the blessings of Big Boi Britain
>EU big angry and claims Poland is an illegitimate state
>The EU Army invades Poland

Boogaloo?

2020-01-31 10:12:50 UTC  

Isn't Poland mostly pro-EU?

2020-01-31 10:14:10 UTC  

Poland is divided on what they are

2020-01-31 10:19:47 UTC  

Poland likes EU money

2020-01-31 10:19:51 UTC  

but not EU meddling

2020-01-31 10:19:56 UTC  

Difficult choices

2020-01-31 10:20:57 UTC  

What if...

2020-01-31 10:21:20 UTC  

EU says "Poland too nationalist. Nationalism big bad, so no more money to Poland."

2020-01-31 10:30:22 UTC  

Poland has...alternate approaches to getting money from EU

2020-01-31 10:31:14 UTC  

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2020-01-31 10:59:23 UTC  

"We used the **woke** to destroy the **woke**"