okay well this is an axiom, and sure but as i said i see it more as an anomally and shouldn't be stated as normal human behaviour imo @brett0007wastaken

yeah yeah its fine dw lol

The shit about Plato's forms seems more and more relevant.

how so? and whilst ur typing it im gonna do some multi tasking

About an "ideal form" or "perfect version" of something which exists only in theory. In this case, Communism.

Technically ancom could work if you regress society back to small towns of maybe 100 people

@xlD4NKlx except geed fundamentally is, the asshole apeman on the savannah that can horde the most resorces is the one most lighly to survive, greed is an inherent positive trait an animal because survival above all else is the game

Possibly, you might also need to be very far away from any other towns.

That too

I wonder too how much the regulation of that kind of community owes to everyone believing in a higher power who'll judge them for their misdeeds.

Basically, too many people in the world for communism to be viable anymore

That's why it always ends in genocide

And a higher power is needed, that's why it seems to operate like a theocracy

State=church

@randomNPCno3 it ends in genocide because the autistic fuck in power rees at the fact that his perfect system in there head isnt working and because they are autistic they naturally blames everything under the sun but themselves

That too

It fails for allot of reasons

Not exactly a hard ideology to pick apart

at the base of it all ideologies are easy to pick apart

"pick apart" isn't really the goal, "understand fully" is where you want to head for

Good point

group think vs individual think

that's a spectrum, wacka, not a binary

and neither right nor wrong

dunno bout that... even a group of 2 people is group think... anything less is individual think

also by pickapart i meant pedandicly poke holes in till it is the equivilent of a philosophical sieve

a group of 2 people is 2 people capable of conducting group think, individual think, or anywhere inbetween

its "them" vs "us"

commies dont differentiate the individual

who cares about them? they're wrong

if one of "us" drone strikes a country its permissible... but if one of "them" does it.. its bad

or not permissible.... its reasoned

excused

doesn't that depend on the justification?

depends on whether they are an "us" or "them"

wait what

i don't think it does

@kaolbrec sure but i guess nothing works as perfectly planned

when Obama deports over 3m people its reasoned/excused ... when Trump deports... whats the tally now? 250k? thats fascism and a dictatorship, and the worst thing ever

actually he might be up to 300k by now

so about 1 tenth