Message from @xlD4NKlx

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2020-01-05 11:53:28 UTC  

That too

2020-01-05 11:53:41 UTC  

It fails for allot of reasons

2020-01-05 11:53:59 UTC  

Not exactly a hard ideology to pick apart

2020-01-05 11:54:55 UTC  

at the base of it all ideologies are easy to pick apart

2020-01-05 12:09:20 UTC  

"pick apart" isn't really the goal, "understand fully" is where you want to head for

2020-01-05 12:09:37 UTC  

Good point

2020-01-05 12:10:56 UTC  

group think vs individual think

2020-01-05 12:11:42 UTC  

that's a spectrum, wacka, not a binary

2020-01-05 12:11:50 UTC  

and neither right nor wrong

2020-01-05 12:12:26 UTC  

dunno bout that... even a group of 2 people is group think... anything less is individual think

2020-01-05 12:12:28 UTC  

also by pickapart i meant pedandicly poke holes in till it is the equivilent of a philosophical sieve

2020-01-05 12:13:46 UTC  

a group of 2 people is 2 people capable of conducting group think, individual think, or anywhere inbetween

2020-01-05 12:16:11 UTC  

its "them" vs "us"

2020-01-05 12:16:47 UTC  

commies dont differentiate the individual

2020-01-05 12:17:18 UTC  

who cares about them? they're wrong

2020-01-05 12:17:28 UTC  

if one of "us" drone strikes a country its permissible... but if one of "them" does it.. its bad

2020-01-05 12:17:44 UTC  

or not permissible.... its reasoned

2020-01-05 12:17:50 UTC  

excused

2020-01-05 12:17:53 UTC  

doesn't that depend on the justification?

2020-01-05 12:19:01 UTC  

depends on whether they are an "us" or "them"

2020-01-05 12:19:41 UTC  

wait what

2020-01-05 12:19:45 UTC  

i don't think it does

2020-01-05 12:20:11 UTC  

@kaolbrec sure but i guess nothing works as perfectly planned

2020-01-05 12:20:20 UTC  

when Obama deports over 3m people its reasoned/excused ... when Trump deports... whats the tally now? 250k? thats fascism and a dictatorship, and the worst thing ever

2020-01-05 12:20:44 UTC  

actually he might be up to 300k by now

2020-01-05 12:20:53 UTC  

so about 1 tenth

2020-01-05 12:21:34 UTC  

@brett0007wastaken sure but idk if this is a real point but more pseudo-science and its scientifically known that one of the major factors to humans being as sucessful as we are on earth, is the fact that we herded in groups - take us on as individuals then we are weak

2020-01-05 12:22:49 UTC  

equal groups? or hierarchical groups?

2020-01-05 12:22:50 UTC  

@xlD4NKlx no you are missing the point

2020-01-05 12:23:08 UTC  

a group of sheep can still lose to a single wolf

2020-01-05 12:23:36 UTC  

how do the groups form in the first place and do groups have internal hierachies?

2020-01-05 12:23:41 UTC  

a group of sheep cant beat a wolf pack with an alpha

2020-01-05 12:24:04 UTC  

sure but i don't see how that example is applicable to humans and is a niche example of that and also they can't if there is alot of sheep and male sheep/rams, but still a weak point

2020-01-05 12:24:47 UTC  

well before skipping the conclusion to pseudo-science, i would first provide and substantiate your points with scientific doctirine @brett0007wastaken

2020-01-05 12:25:13 UTC  

alot of people say similar stuff like this but get away with it because its pseudo-science and from observation, it tends not to necesarilly be true

2020-01-05 12:25:35 UTC  

@xlD4NKlx basic evolutionary priciples,

2020-01-05 12:26:01 UTC  

if you stockpile and hoard you have more resorces to spare

2020-01-05 12:26:02 UTC  

a pack of humans with no leader will fall to an organised militia of humans when the strongest rise naturally to the top

2020-01-05 12:26:18 UTC  

not necesarilly, but please again, link to a scientific source to not spread misinformation

2020-01-05 12:26:41 UTC  

as long as each human in the pack is given the opportunity to rise they (the pack) will become the strongest

2020-01-05 12:26:48 UTC  

all your points are cute and all but you need to actually substantiate them with evidence