Message from @Kunarian

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2020-01-22 22:19:57 UTC  

No. Just a huge section of their party followed him in rebelling against May for a long time and his views are generally agreed with by many Conservative members and voters.

2020-01-22 22:20:14 UTC  

I know it's all fun and edgy to pretend like you're a "real Conservative"

2020-01-22 22:20:27 UTC  

But hating the Jews isn't really the trump card you think it is Leohte.

2020-01-22 22:20:30 UTC  

>by voters

2020-01-22 22:20:49 UTC  

We just said that we should look at their policy from the source, not from the voter base

2020-01-22 22:21:04 UTC  

The conservatives have not conserved anything

2020-01-22 22:21:15 UTC  

Your suggestion of the tories "over time getting more conservative" which is more realistically termed "growing a fucking spine" doesn't happen without people who are 'edgy' real conservatives

2020-01-22 22:21:18 UTC  

You say that as if conserving everything is good.

2020-01-22 22:21:26 UTC  

tory party wasnt even officially formed until 1830

2020-01-22 22:21:43 UTC  

No the Conservative Party wasn't formed until 1830

2020-01-22 22:21:46 UTC  

I didnt attach a moral value to conservativism, just that conservativism, should conserve

2020-01-22 22:21:54 UTC  

the Tory party has existed much longer

2020-01-22 22:22:04 UTC  

@Mokou I mean it's been people like Jacob and Boris and Priti that have given the Conservatives a spine more so than say Sargon or anyone on this server really.

2020-01-22 22:22:09 UTC  

or rather, existed much earlier and was morphed into the Conservative party

2020-01-22 22:22:17 UTC  

only independents who were referred to as conservative

2020-01-22 22:22:19 UTC  

conservative party is Centre left

2020-01-22 22:22:23 UTC  

Eh

2020-01-22 22:22:25 UTC  

Not really

2020-01-22 22:22:27 UTC  

has been since mid 200s

2020-01-22 22:22:33 UTC  

2000s

2020-01-22 22:22:37 UTC  

Unless you explain how it is that's a bit nonsensical.

2020-01-22 22:22:45 UTC  

their policies

2020-01-22 22:22:48 UTC  

If you don't think party politics were a massive force as early as the end of the 17th century you're wrong

2020-01-22 22:22:51 UTC  

Which policies?

2020-01-22 22:23:13 UTC  

abortion, mnarriage, size of government, minimum wage, taxation

2020-01-22 22:23:17 UTC  

do i need to go on?

2020-01-22 22:23:24 UTC  

no you need to explain.

2020-01-22 22:23:39 UTC  

they have taken a left wing position on these issues

2020-01-22 22:23:47 UTC  

What position have they taken in your view

2020-01-22 22:23:50 UTC  

and how is it left

2020-01-22 22:23:54 UTC  

MOAR min wage - okay lefty

2020-01-22 22:24:18 UTC  

1929 poster

2020-01-22 22:24:18 UTC  

How do you define left vs right?

2020-01-22 22:24:20 UTC  

conservation of the institute of marriage? nah, thats not worth saving - okay lefty

2020-01-22 22:24:31 UTC  

Jes on point

2020-01-22 22:24:47 UTC  

bigger government

2020-01-22 22:24:52 UTC  

more spending

2020-01-22 22:25:02 UTC  

taking away free speech

2020-01-22 22:25:09 UTC  

When Fascists and Hereditarian's meet