I'm not to the right of the conservative, i'm centre-left

Lol

This is how I know things have moved - my opinions haven't changed over time

I feel like you don’t know the definition of that phrase

Tell me. How are you centre left

I believe in equality of opportunity individual freedoms, a strong but carefuly prescribed and transparent state, and expansive social programs

I believe the free market should be protected, but regulated to keep it free for the purposes of serving the electorate (anti-corporatist)

I consistently come up as centre-left on any test you care to mention

Lol

Labour were centre-left until 2015

Lib Dems were centre-left until 2010ish

https://twitter.com/SkyNewsBreak/status/1221355635171889152?s=20

“Any test” ah yes the official legally recognised ideology tests

Pick you own authority then, Kunarian

Since you're claiming "you're not centre left, and labour is, because I say so"

They're perfectly allowed to hold whatever their opinions they like, but they're not centre-left

If you think all that is centre left then you’re wrong. Tbh you just sound like a wushu washy centrist with no strong principles from that description. Which is why you might think Labour were centre left but now the Conservatives are when you define yourself as centre left.

OK, Blair's Labour was far-right

Says you

Lol

i feel like expansive social programs is very left

Depends

depends on how invasive and specific they are

Is authoritarianism being taken into account and also the implementation matters

Blaire moved the labour party right-wards to the centre ground to make them electable

THis is universally acknowledged as being representative of reality

this sort of bickering is kinda gay imo

it just depends where you put center

Momentum + Corbyn dragged Labour way to left, making them unelectable int he process

So unless you're claiming Blair's Labour is politically equivalent to Corbyn's Labour party, you're talking shit

If you believe that authoritarianism is right wing the maybe social programs are right wing but if you believe the opposite then maybe it’s left wing

no, authoritarianism is not right wing

social programs are not right wing

you could say mainstream "conservative" parties are left wing in the sense they're basically progressives on speed dial

Lol

progressivism is inherently left wing

Depends on the nation

not at all

Ye

progressivism is the autonym of conservatism

by the very definition of the words