labour really isnt cnetr-left at all

You’re basing everything around your politics

Some joined the Lib Dems, the rest just shut up and went away

No, i'm not

Just like left wing nutters do

"Socialism and marxism are now centre-left" - Kunarian 2020

Lol

They aren't a full Socialist or Marxist party

No, they're not

how is this not about politics?

On Britain’s political compass Labour is the centre left and Conservatives are the centre right.

There are still many Centre Left people in Labour

Nevertheless, the centre of gravity within the labour party is not centre-left, it's moderately left

Just look at Kate Hoey from the last parliament

Kate Hoey sort is a minority

Just because you’re to the right of the Conservatives doesn’t mean they’re in the left Eccles

I'm not to the right of the conservative, i'm centre-left

Lol

This is how I know things have moved - my opinions haven't changed over time

I feel like you don’t know the definition of that phrase

Tell me. How are you centre left

I believe in equality of opportunity individual freedoms, a strong but carefuly prescribed and transparent state, and expansive social programs

I believe the free market should be protected, but regulated to keep it free for the purposes of serving the electorate (anti-corporatist)

I consistently come up as centre-left on any test you care to mention

Lol

Labour were centre-left until 2015

Lib Dems were centre-left until 2010ish

https://twitter.com/SkyNewsBreak/status/1221355635171889152?s=20

“Any test” ah yes the official legally recognised ideology tests

Pick you own authority then, Kunarian

Since you're claiming "you're not centre left, and labour is, because I say so"

They're perfectly allowed to hold whatever their opinions they like, but they're not centre-left

If you think all that is centre left then you’re wrong. Tbh you just sound like a wushu washy centrist with no strong principles from that description. Which is why you might think Labour were centre left but now the Conservatives are when you define yourself as centre left.

OK, Blair's Labour was far-right

Says you

Lol

i feel like expansive social programs is very left

Depends

depends on how invasive and specific they are

Is authoritarianism being taken into account and also the implementation matters

Blaire moved the labour party right-wards to the centre ground to make them electable