Message from @TheCaledonian

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2020-01-30 22:25:50 UTC  

I care about the state not discriminating against it's citizens

2020-01-30 22:25:52 UTC  

@Dᴏᴏғᴜs Dᴏʀᴋᴍᴀɴᴇ I kinda hope you're mixing up ethnicity with nationality. We already restrict migration based on origin because as you say, security concerns.

2020-01-30 22:26:30 UTC  

What about discriminating against non citizens

2020-01-30 22:27:23 UTC  

Non citizens are non citizens

2020-01-30 22:27:30 UTC  

That would still be wrong if it was based on race, If the native citizens really wanted to do that then it should be done but i would still disagree with it

2020-01-30 22:27:50 UTC  

Ethnicity is a group of things. Stuff like race is involved, but so is genetics and ancestry.
Basically what ethnicity comes down to is: The more similar someone is to you, the better. Nationality would fit in there as well, but it there is a higher chance that someone from Portugal will integrate better in England than someone from Somalia

2020-01-30 22:28:34 UTC  

That shouldn't lead us to discriminate though

2020-01-30 22:28:35 UTC  

There should definitely be a different treatment between citizens and non-citizens

2020-01-30 22:28:49 UTC  

It should when it comes to immigration

2020-01-30 22:28:59 UTC  

It's clear that if someone comes from a similar country they can integrate better i agree with that

2020-01-30 22:29:28 UTC  

But i still don't think that is a reason to stop certain people from immigrating and attempting to integrate them based on that

2020-01-30 22:29:45 UTC  

"It's clear that if someone comes from a similar country they can integrate better i agree with that" bRuH

2020-01-30 22:29:51 UTC  

Okay racist

2020-01-30 22:29:56 UTC  

That's pretty much a given

2020-01-30 22:30:17 UTC  

If the cultural change is limited then they can integrate better

2020-01-30 22:30:18 UTC  

What if there are a whole lot of problems in society and a lot of it is centered around a huge base of an immigrant group. Should still nothing be done? When is it ever enough?

2020-01-30 22:30:23 UTC  

You are saying some French person can integrate better than a Sudanese person?

2020-01-30 22:30:33 UTC  

To an extent

2020-01-30 22:30:42 UTC  

Okay racist

2020-01-30 22:30:43 UTC  

Laws and culture are more similar

2020-01-30 22:30:55 UTC  

How

2020-01-30 22:31:04 UTC  

Sudan was a colony of Britain

2020-01-30 22:31:08 UTC  

@Dᴏᴏғᴜs Dᴏʀᴋᴍᴀɴᴇ We can investigate that group if that becomes a problem

2020-01-30 22:31:42 UTC  

But continuing to let those people to come should still be done, despite that "investigation"?

2020-01-30 22:31:49 UTC  

But we shouldn't point to the actions of a group of people from a particular country and use that as a reason to deny other people who would potentially be better from immigrating from that country

2020-01-30 22:32:18 UTC  

We took over India for instance

2020-01-30 22:32:31 UTC  

That was clearly not supported by the Indians and yet our government did it

2020-01-30 22:32:57 UTC  

Should India now say that all British people are banned from India due to the former actions of some British People?

2020-01-30 22:33:24 UTC  

Or would that be unfair to all the people that have nothing to do with the actions committed

2020-01-30 22:33:31 UTC  

The same relates to this

2020-01-30 22:33:33 UTC  

India should definitely dictate who they want to let in their country or not, yes

2020-01-30 22:33:39 UTC  

Some members of a group might commit crimes

2020-01-30 22:33:54 UTC  

alright dude- Seen Katy Hopkins got yeeted on twitter.... heres some interesting info for you or sargon- Rachel Riley says she met with Centre for Countering Digital Hate and that is what led to Katie having her account vapourised. Well, the guy that owns this Centre for Countering Digital Hate LTD also happens to own Labourlist.org. His name is Morgan James Mcsweeney (also look at the join/resign dates on one of his other businesses). You can find this mans buisiness holding listed on companies house. Surely it is a scandal if someone running a labour news site is using his other company to deplatform right with commentators and journos

2020-01-30 22:33:58 UTC  

But we shouldn't use that as a reason to ban other members of that group from coming in

2020-01-30 22:33:59 UTC  

Some groups commit crimes more than others

2020-01-30 22:34:04 UTC  

can someone pass this message to sargon please: alright dude- Seen Katy Hopkins got yeeted on twitter.... heres some interesting info for you or sargon- Rachel Riley says she met with Centre for Countering Digital Hate and that is what led to Katie having her account vapourised. Well, the guy that owns this Centre for Countering Digital Hate LTD also happens to own Labourlist.org. His name is Morgan James Mcsweeney (also look at the join/resign dates on one of his other businesses). You can find this mans buisiness holding listed on companies house. Surely it is a scandal if someone running a labour news site is using his other company to deplatform right with commentators and journos

2020-01-30 22:34:42 UTC  

@Dᴏᴏғᴜs Dᴏʀᴋᴍᴀɴᴇ Would it be fair and morally right for India to do that?

2020-01-30 22:34:48 UTC  

Yeah

2020-01-30 22:34:51 UTC  

Why?

2020-01-30 22:35:06 UTC  

Since most people had nothing to do with it

2020-01-30 22:35:08 UTC  

Because they are taking precautions to protect their own citizens