Message from @Dostayer

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2020-01-31 18:24:36 UTC  

well that's apple gone

2020-01-31 18:24:43 UTC  

they're all as bad as each other

2020-01-31 18:24:54 UTC  

they know non-repairability is what gets people to replace their goods every 3 years

2020-01-31 18:24:58 UTC  

1. It's not for governments to decide.
2. There's already uniformality in ports.
3. The only outlier is apple

2020-01-31 18:24:59 UTC  

yup

2020-01-31 18:25:17 UTC  

yes its an apple law pretty much

2020-01-31 18:25:50 UTC  

there wasn't uniformity in ports

2020-01-31 18:25:56 UTC  

@Hopix do it yourself. It's called Independence 😛

2020-01-31 18:26:52 UTC  

While I do think they deserve a roast, governmenta meddling with such things is rather problematic.

2020-01-31 18:27:17 UTC  

@Eccles nowadays? Only apple doesn't conform with the port

2020-01-31 18:27:31 UTC  

This isn't a new law 🙂

2020-01-31 18:27:59 UTC  

Who decided the standard, though? Market forces or government?

2020-01-31 18:28:17 UTC  

I want the EU to make me a cup of tea

2020-01-31 18:28:58 UTC  

Well that didn't taste too bad, and the nearest I can come to describing what it was, was "beef and parsip ghoulash"

2020-01-31 18:29:02 UTC  

They've passed it today

2020-01-31 18:29:12 UTC  

And it's not only for smartphones though

2020-01-31 18:29:23 UTC  

It's still not what's needed

2020-01-31 18:29:36 UTC  

We need either full right-to-repair laws, or mandatory 10yr parts + labour warranties

2020-01-31 18:29:45 UTC  

Across consumer electronics and cars

2020-01-31 18:29:51 UTC  

Watch iy

2020-01-31 18:29:54 UTC  

It

2020-01-31 18:30:19 UTC  

It can make prices to rise

2020-01-31 18:30:27 UTC  

It inevitably will

2020-01-31 18:30:31 UTC  

But that's not a bad thing

2020-01-31 18:30:53 UTC  

Forcing a company to manufacture something for a decade is a bad thing

2020-01-31 18:31:03 UTC  

Especially with the current technology

2020-01-31 18:31:09 UTC  

10yrs for cars, 5yrs for everything else

2020-01-31 18:31:14 UTC  

minimum

2020-01-31 18:31:18 UTC  

Either that or right-to-repair

2020-01-31 18:32:15 UTC  

You do aware that such things involves toolings, right?

2020-01-31 18:32:40 UTC  

You need minimal tools for most repairs

2020-01-31 18:32:52 UTC  

And independent electrics repairers have the tools for everything else

2020-01-31 18:32:53 UTC  

I'm talking about manufacturing

2020-01-31 18:33:18 UTC  

You don't need different tooling to make a product that lasts 5 or 10yrs to what you have now

2020-01-31 18:33:44 UTC  

Repairs? It's not a problem if you have the parts.

2020-01-31 18:34:03 UTC  

If the OEM doesn't want to produce parts for 10 years, third parties will

2020-01-31 18:34:11 UTC  

Provided you don't engage in protectionist practices like Apple

2020-01-31 18:34:15 UTC  

@Eccles there are differences when it comes to fabrication

2020-01-31 18:34:17 UTC  

(Among others)

2020-01-31 18:34:39 UTC  

Also, fear of reverse engineering

2020-01-31 18:34:51 UTC  

That fear is retarded - their parts are made by the Chinese in China