Message from @Eccles

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2020-02-04 23:23:34 UTC  

It's quite fully pissed me off because it has the potential to entirely derail my life

2020-02-04 23:23:36 UTC  

Hopefully when they see how unpopular the policy is they will decide against implementing it

2020-02-04 23:23:50 UTC  

People won't realise for 10-15 years

2020-02-04 23:24:05 UTC  

They don't know how fucking expensive electric cars are, even used

2020-02-04 23:24:26 UTC  

^

2020-02-04 23:24:36 UTC  

i still want to know what we're supposed to do about the used market being a minefield of cars with shagged batteries requiring several thousands of pounds to have them replaced

2020-02-04 23:24:37 UTC  

What they should really do if they want to stop as many people buying diesel cars is help lower the price of electric cars

2020-02-04 23:24:38 UTC  

The cheapest serviceable electric car on autotrader tonight, used, is more expensive that most people spend on a used car of any kind

2020-02-04 23:24:47 UTC  

They can't, Lizard

2020-02-04 23:25:00 UTC  

They could try and subside the industry

2020-02-04 23:25:08 UTC  

There isn't that much money out there

2020-02-04 23:25:13 UTC  

And set a cap on the cost of them

2020-02-04 23:25:20 UTC  

You would have to subsidise both the new and used market

2020-02-04 23:25:23 UTC  

It ain't going to happen

2020-02-04 23:25:37 UTC  

Force the prices low and subside the industries so they can afford it

2020-02-04 23:25:45 UTC  

How do you force the prices low low?

2020-02-04 23:25:54 UTC  

Set a price cap on it

2020-02-04 23:26:05 UTC  

Then no electric cars will be sold

2020-02-04 23:26:07 UTC  

Or Nationalise the Industry

2020-02-04 23:26:12 UTC  

Lot's of ways to do it

2020-02-04 23:26:16 UTC  

How about: Don't bother

2020-02-04 23:26:51 UTC  

I'm just saying that they could have easily encouraged people to stop buying diesel cars without just banning them

2020-02-04 23:26:54 UTC  

Don't bother, legislate that public transport and commercial vehicles go electric first, and you sit back and wait for the market to act on private cars

2020-02-04 23:27:01 UTC  

No, they can't

2020-02-04 23:27:26 UTC  

my little runabout is petrol but so clean it's zero rated tax, and the CO rating in last weeks MOT was 0.0

2020-02-04 23:27:43 UTC  

Then their test is buggered

2020-02-04 23:28:00 UTC  

running that little car into the ground is infinitely more environmental than 'upgrading' to a new electric one

2020-02-04 23:28:08 UTC  

Carbon monoxide maybe

2020-02-04 23:28:13 UTC  

Quite

2020-02-04 23:28:14 UTC  

yeah thats not CO2

2020-02-04 23:28:16 UTC  

I agree

2020-02-04 23:28:37 UTC  

Side-effect of this ban will be to ramp up the price of non-electric cars in the used market

2020-02-04 23:28:59 UTC  

Though i doubt for a second the government will not just ramp the price of petrol and diesel up, even as it goes up naturally as the market shrinks

2020-02-04 23:29:10 UTC  

So we get fucked from every possible direction by these urban fucking parasites

2020-02-04 23:34:44 UTC  

I haven't felt this wound up since Blair fucked up the universities

2020-02-04 23:37:48 UTC  

every real world review ive seen of an EV has been negative

2020-02-04 23:38:15 UTC  

Oh, there are good EVs

2020-02-04 23:38:29 UTC  

when used in a long journey situation - problems with queues and faults and types, and the time it takes to charge with whatever you manage to find

2020-02-04 23:38:43 UTC  

Yeah, i'm not worried about that and most people wouldn't

2020-02-04 23:38:52 UTC  

It's the cost of the things that's the deal breaker

2020-02-04 23:39:05 UTC  

Putting aside all of the infrastructure and wherethefuckistheelectricgoingtocomefrom issues