Message from @Puggums
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I can't imagine Macron getting re elected
people voted theresa cos they didnt want corbyn so i can imagine a simialr thing happening in france
if that side doesnt slplit the vote and theres no one else
The socialists in France are actually old school socialists
And likewise are the nationalists
And they have more authentic support
The Labour party here are just social dems in comparison to continental socialists
then id expect their elections to be more static cos there'd be less bleed over
tho i suppose nationalism and socialism arent mutually exclusive
Nationalism isn't an economic theory so it can't really be exclusive
But that's me just being semantical
i'm not engaging in the argument here, but something can be mutually exclusive without being in the same category
so they don't have to be of the same thing for them to be mutually exclusive
they can oppose each other in another way
say some ideology that leads you to the economic theory in this case
I would say that economic globalisation is directly opposed to nationalism
But a nationalist can have an internal capitalist or socialist leaning economy
I.e free trade with outsiders isn't nationalistic
i dont think nationalism has to be isolationist
That's what I'm getting at
Protectionism is more nationalistic than total free trade with other nations
i get ya
The opposition to globalisation is that one would like the country to turn internal completely and cut it's ties with the world
globalisation isn't the act of attempting to make good relationships with other countries
it appears to be a push towards global rule
the opposition of that isn't a muddy topic
and is wholly appropriate for someone who doesn't believe that a single government above all is a fantastic idea
You can have good relations with anyone without having massive economic ties to them
And having free movement of labour
And sharing military and technological secrets
exactly
That's what I'm for
i agree that the uk and the us special relationship should be maintained
I dont really think so
and we should align ourselves with them and their mil in terms of opsec etc
that's fair if you don't
i find that our relationship with the us isn't something like our relationship with the europeans
Yes because we share blood with them
But