Message from @Puggums
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makes sense that all the beneficiaries wanna stay
UK was the 2nd biggest provider of the EU budget
germ 1st france 3rd isnt it?
France was of course 3rd and Germany 1st
Yup
yhyh
2022 for next french GE i hear
macron out!
maybe if the riots keep up till then
Yeah I can't see them stoping any time soon
one of my french friends said that when he lived in paris there were protests pretty much every weekend and that this kind of stuff is pretty normal
so i think unless the macron voters budge they'll stay in
Depends on the state of the socialists and French nationalists
I can't imagine Macron getting re elected
people voted theresa cos they didnt want corbyn so i can imagine a simialr thing happening in france
if that side doesnt slplit the vote and theres no one else
The socialists in France are actually old school socialists
And likewise are the nationalists
And they have more authentic support
The Labour party here are just social dems in comparison to continental socialists
tho i suppose nationalism and socialism arent mutually exclusive
Nationalism isn't an economic theory so it can't really be exclusive
But that's me just being semantical
i'm not engaging in the argument here, but something can be mutually exclusive without being in the same category
so they don't have to be of the same thing for them to be mutually exclusive
they can oppose each other in another way
say some ideology that leads you to the economic theory in this case
I would say that economic globalisation is directly opposed to nationalism
But a nationalist can have an internal capitalist or socialist leaning economy
I.e free trade with outsiders isn't nationalistic
i dont think nationalism has to be isolationist
protective maybe
That's what I'm getting at
Protectionism is more nationalistic than total free trade with other nations
i get ya
The opposition to globalisation is that one would like the country to turn internal completely and cut it's ties with the world
globalisation isn't the act of attempting to make good relationships with other countries
it appears to be a push towards global rule
the opposition of that isn't a muddy topic