Message from @Puggums

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2020-02-08 11:04:44 UTC  

And they disregard eu laws in terms of refugees and migration quotas

2020-02-08 11:05:02 UTC  

Plus they have their own visegrad support

2020-02-08 11:05:12 UTC  

Now that Britain has rightfully left

2020-02-08 11:05:28 UTC  

I predict Poland will play a much bigger role in internal EU politics

2020-02-08 11:05:46 UTC  

crashing the EU was always about the big money countries going out like france germ uk

2020-02-08 11:05:54 UTC  

Yeah

2020-02-08 11:05:56 UTC  

makes sense that all the beneficiaries wanna stay

2020-02-08 11:06:11 UTC  

UK was the 2nd biggest provider of the EU budget

2020-02-08 11:06:19 UTC  

germ 1st france 3rd isnt it?

2020-02-08 11:06:21 UTC  

France was of course 3rd and Germany 1st

2020-02-08 11:06:24 UTC  

Yup

2020-02-08 11:06:25 UTC  

yhyh

2020-02-08 11:06:40 UTC  

2022 for next french GE i hear

2020-02-08 11:06:58 UTC  

macron out!

2020-02-08 11:07:04 UTC  

maybe if the riots keep up till then

2020-02-08 11:07:36 UTC  

Yeah I can't see them stoping any time soon

2020-02-08 11:09:55 UTC  

one of my french friends said that when he lived in paris there were protests pretty much every weekend and that this kind of stuff is pretty normal

2020-02-08 11:10:34 UTC  

so i think unless the macron voters budge they'll stay in

2020-02-08 11:11:03 UTC  

Depends on the state of the socialists and French nationalists

2020-02-08 11:11:49 UTC  

I can't imagine Macron getting re elected

2020-02-08 11:12:22 UTC  

people voted theresa cos they didnt want corbyn so i can imagine a simialr thing happening in france

2020-02-08 11:12:31 UTC  

if that side doesnt slplit the vote and theres no one else

2020-02-08 11:12:46 UTC  

The socialists in France are actually old school socialists

2020-02-08 11:12:59 UTC  

And likewise are the nationalists

2020-02-08 11:13:14 UTC  

And they have more authentic support

2020-02-08 11:14:01 UTC  

The Labour party here are just social dems in comparison to continental socialists

2020-02-08 11:15:47 UTC  

then id expect their elections to be more static cos there'd be less bleed over

2020-02-08 11:16:10 UTC  

tho i suppose nationalism and socialism arent mutually exclusive

2020-02-08 11:18:51 UTC  

Nationalism isn't an economic theory so it can't really be exclusive

2020-02-08 11:20:19 UTC  

But that's me just being semantical

2020-02-08 11:20:41 UTC  

i'm not engaging in the argument here, but something can be mutually exclusive without being in the same category

2020-02-08 11:20:59 UTC  

so they don't have to be of the same thing for them to be mutually exclusive

2020-02-08 11:21:09 UTC  

they can oppose each other in another way

2020-02-08 11:21:29 UTC  

say some ideology that leads you to the economic theory in this case

2020-02-08 11:23:13 UTC  

I would say that economic globalisation is directly opposed to nationalism

2020-02-08 11:23:31 UTC  

But a nationalist can have an internal capitalist or socialist leaning economy

2020-02-08 11:24:09 UTC  

I.e free trade with outsiders isn't nationalistic

2020-02-08 11:24:54 UTC  

i dont think nationalism has to be isolationist

2020-02-08 11:25:01 UTC  

protective maybe

2020-02-08 11:25:11 UTC  

That's what I'm getting at