Message from @TheRandomist
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It might be what you think is commonly understood - however, its a stupid loop hole to leave in your argumentation
and given that people can and do argue back on the usage, it's even more stupid
If you use common language when making a simple comment, I don’t see the problem (and that’s what I was doing, tho granted politics ain’t that simple)... redefining after other comments are made I have no problem with either because as you said not everyone has the same language and terms
I appriciate that you understand the context on being in a politics place makes common language. However, you have seen in the past people say "climate change is always happening" because it's true. Man made climate change, is something different it describes the human involvement and our impact on the earth. If you want to win the overall arguement (the one with the audience and not the interlocutor) you do not want to leave room for doubt
also you want to stop making arguments that are dishonest if this is your pet issue (not claiming that you do, however, there are people who do)
the dishonest issues in an area that is not commonly understood opens up the doubt when someone brings it to light
Well that was kinda my point, that I wasn’t trying to be dishonest... but yeah we ain’t exactly in disagreement, common language is useful until it is not
That's a good example - when I listen to a debate and someone talks about "stopping climate change", I consider them a fool.
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In all fairness, she was caught collaborating with Israel outside her remit - she's far from perfect...
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8034471/Intelligence-chiefs-sharing-information-Priti-Patel-dont-trust-her.html
@Jabba's Soapbox They are astro turfed
And establishment as heck
yeah
Any chance to address these claims by someone more in the know than I:
https://policinginsight.com/features/analysis/when-bad-evidence-is-worse-than-no-evidence-quilliams-grooming-gangs-report-and-its-legacy/
>cockbrain
oddly fitting
I'm surprised that the UK Government hasn't proposed a ban on log burning fires and BBQ's.
I won’t be surprised if they decide to ban bonfires on 5th November
They'll start ratcheting the wet wood/house coal ban after a couple of years
I think if a new rightwing party comes into play Boris will be screwed.
@Gaylien dont give them ideas
Well my BBQ is propane.
So that should be ok
Or do we have a voting system rigged against any real alternative.
hank would be proud
I think a new rightwing party would go the same way as TIG/CUK/TIGFC or whatever they called themselves because of the fear of letting Labour in if the vote was split too much
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@Hiddenhope they'll come for that too, they're already making noises about gas boilers
Labour have to destroy themselves utterly before a new party can arise
the voting system is rigged to favor the big parties
It would need some form of PR/STV for a new party to stand a chance here
I'm just wondering what they'll suggest people use for camping stoves if they get to the point that all combustible fuels are banned?
> Around 2.5 million households are now living in fuel poverty - where the home cannot be kept warm at a reasonable cost - at a time energy bills are soaring. Some 17,000 deaths a year are caused by cold homes.
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> Ian Gregory, an adviser to the fuel industry, said: “This is gesture politics of the worst type and is going to hit the rural poor the hardest. Alternatives are twice as expensive and unaffordable for many. “Nearly 4 million people are off the gas grid in the UK, and 92 percent of our coal is imported from countries like Russia and Australia. It’s baffling as well as barmy.”
these numbers are nuts
It’s like we voted the greens in
well just imagine if labour or greens were in
they never stop talking about it