Christ the Australians were based, I can only wish we had politicians and speakers like that today.

Economically speaking that's no longer realistic. Too many stakeholders in international affairs.

Ideology often follows economics, so yeah.

Unless we experience some sort of global technological setback that makes trading and stuff really hard once again, the ideological trajectory probably won't change.

Oh sweet the channel's back

Woooooo

Should there be a law in place that makes it impossible to impeach a President a second time if they’re acquitted, say similar to double jeopardy? Or should something else be done? Could such a law even be put in place or would it be unconstitutional?

Hey

@Sq crcl how to start his debate?

Dunno, do you want to say something first?

I've come to the conclusion that public schools are just like socialism. it works in the short term but then becomes a virus

Agreed

Ok, let me show you what worries me about it and then you can respond with your ideas, thoughts,questions... Etc and then we go from there.

sure

Public education is shit because the teachers are uninvolved, the syllabus is toxic, the schools are after the government's money and the government only cares about the average of the people not at all any individuals' success other than a prop piece for a commercial on achievement or some bullshit.

How are we doing so far, do we agree? @Kingy200

More to it than just uninvolved but yes we agree

Ok, so therefore...

There are also teacher unions that come in to play

are u typing a book

Un-official *support schools* cropping up due to the vacuum in the market. The education the schools provide is useless, worse than useless for competitiveness.

If we aid these associations, we reward the inept and thieving government's error.

These associations get corrupt over long term.

These associations can't impart licenses and are operating in a grey zone, capped always by the goodwill and patience of the local government.

Homeschooling is the better alternative, for situations where necessary, community schools but never as part of any larger organisation.

Let the free market fix this as well

I'm done. @Kingy200
Sorry, wanted to simplify it.

Well there is no doubt that it would corrupt over time. If private schools get funding they'll have the same problem that public schools did. They'd be doing things for goverment funding because they'll be able to get more. Therefor the goverment will push things it wants tort.

If you change the way the goverment looks at education it would be better i'd like to think. (not sure if it's true but it's worth exploring) what if the goverment wasn't in education at all. Didn't give funding and didn't give test. Just left it to the private market?

I think them increasing the time to respond was a good idea haha

I'm so glad i complained about it

*If private schools get funding they'll have the same problem that public schools did. They'd be doing things for goverment funding because they'll be able to get more. Therefor the goverment will push things it wants tort.*

We see eye to eye, I reckon.

*what if the goverment wasn't in education at all. Didn't give funding and didn't give test. Just left it to the private market?*

This is what I want to see instead of crony-anything 👍

I think we think alike where I'm more skeptical even about some of the actors within the free-er market
(we haven't had freemarket setup for several centuries)

Yeah i'm skeptical about the freemarket aswell. I can see someone coming along that offers these schools money to teach things. (not the goverment). It could be a business or a person with an agenda. If they can get more money what would stop them from doing so.

Also i think there would be less teachers but more better quilty teachers. If the teacher fails the school fails as they loose students.

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Heck, even the church could run schools better in the 16th century 😸

Hahaha scary but true

*Yeah i'm skeptical about the freemarket aswell.*

Me too, bc of the **human condition** (greed, sloth, env...) .

*It could be a business or a person with an agenda.*

And here we enter nuances. Ie. : if the owner of a small to moderate operations' voluntary CEO and class giver was a biiig family man or woman (idc) then -... Perhaps a *maybe* let's try because we have working ones already.

In that system, market inefficiency is awarded with continuous rejection until improvements are achieved and that's it.

All the magic.

Do work, get paid accordingly. The better you are at it and can market it, the more you lift everyone around with your quality / price / reliability contributions. That simple and constantly adapting the provided to the customers' real needs direct. @Kingy200

You also have to compete more as there are more schools. Which means the pay for teachers would go up? Which means more people with higher IQ's see the pay and move to become a teacher. The shiity teachers move to the bad schools because of pay but the quiltiy over time of teaching teachers go up thus even the education in the shiity school goes up over time

In the end give it 40 years and the pay will stabilize

that evidence is based off programmers (over paid for what it is but pay is going down now for shiity programmers)

Oh, not just liveable wages but TEACHERS and real EDUCATORS people who are naturally apt to do it.

Yes, I don't really know what's the ladder or businesses opportunity being a programmer...

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What do you think the government has as an incentive to allow for such schools to give out medical and law and theology degrees?

Goverment will increase the cost and lower the quality if they do

the question is, would it become easier to become a doctor or lawyer. I think if u do the same with hospitals it would

I'm not sure if they do it consciously, I think it's rather the nature of any parasitic relationship.

That's also partly why I mentioned the human condition earlier.