Message from @snake
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They'll get an amnesty
nation of ignorants?
Turkey has gone nuts on Syria, Erdogan can't be controlled
I support Assad
I've always supported Assad
I just realized that Assad was born on 9/11
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I support Erdogan, because Fascist dictatorship
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They aren't a nation of immigrants, they're a nation of colonists
They overthrew the native peoples, built up great cities/roads and made their own identity free from the influence of European monarchs. It's disgusting how the left twists it around like it's a bad thing what we did. The Indians didnt work the soil, they had no real culture. And they were killing each other over horses and berry bushes long before the white British colonials came.
Thank God based Andrew Jackson genocided them, now only <1% remain. I'll riverdance on a Seminole burial mound when that number hits 0
Fascist = faggotism
Okay, nonce
Erdogan isn't a fascist, further reinforcing the fact that MasterRace doesn't understand what fascism is
Yeah I support Assad, and usually Russia as well.
@Korewa Krusader
Umm *you* are arguing about group selection. I was just trying to explain how Hamilton works which is not a point of debate at all.
@Son of Rome After the colonization people migrated to the US in huge numbers. The difference is most of them assimilated into the society of the country instead of refusing to recognise its customs and laws. We were a nation of immigrants, however that percentage has dropped a lot over time. We also were a nation of colonists, however that was generations ago. Now we're mostly a nation of "native born citizens".
More importantly, however, what the European colonists did to the native people of the Americas was absolutely abhorrent and unforgivable. Some of the natives were barbarians and savage and some were violent. However, some had a flourishing and healthy culture. In South America, there were massive cities with millions of people. It's recently been discovered. What wiped most of them out was the plagues brought over by the colonists.
You really need to rethink your understanding of reality. There's nothing that can be done now to fix it. Just like slavery, its in the past and reparations are a moronic idea for things that happened hundreds of years ago. However, it was still a terrible outcome.
Just like how right now innocent whites are being killed off and chased out of South Africa for the crimes of their forefathers. Do you think that also is a good thing?
There wasn’t a genocide of Siberian Americans. And slavery wasn’t has harsh as people make it out to be, like there wasn’t massive amount of rapes, in fact it was really rare. That’s North America anyway, idk about other parts of America.
The issue with integration nowadays is the fact Mexico is right there on our border, and that there really isn’t a border there at this point. People still speak Spanish, they aren’t Protestant but Catholic. And that they self segregate into their own communities and have essentially formed a entirely new Latin American nation in the South West USA.
Also our moral matrix has broken down completely, people are told to remain the same culturally when they move here. So there is absolutely 0 integration. And these people will out number us in 2045. So basically it’s ¡Adios America!
This is why some people want to break up the US btw, they want to salvage a part of the country from being dominated by Hispanics and not become a hated minority
"genocide of Siberian Americans"
You what mate
"Siberian Americans" I might start calling 'em that
They came from Siberia over the ice bridge
There were multiple waves from Siberia over the millennia
Slavery was actually pretty terrible.
There are some good things that came out of it and in some places slaves were treated more like indentured servants and members of the family which is much better. However, that was not the norm. The average mortality rate on the slave ships was 15%. That's abysmal. You're right that extreme abuse wasn't everywhere. However, it was common.
I agree about the integration of today's immigrants. I mentioned that problem in my original post.
Well the importation of slaves were banned pretty early on. And extreme abuse was pretty rare I’d argue. Because you wouldn’t damage the thing working on the field, that costs you money if you did that. I’m not excusing slavery, I’m just saying it wasn’t as bad as people say.
So you're saying 100% of slaves have made up 15% of casualties? That reminds me of another statistic.
What?
Speak English (EtBrooD)
I made a stupid joke don't mind me
Ahh okay, thought you were arguing a point
with half a pint in ya
A pint for a point
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Also historical records show many slaves were treated horrifically. Other than seeing them as subhuman and treating them as such to reinforce their own ideology, slaves could be killed to set an example for other slaves (or tortured), such as if they escaped, refused orders or something like that. The reason wasn't to get more work out of that particular individual slave, but out of all slaves, be it in society (such as if they tried to escape), or if there were in a big group. And yes slavery inherently produces less value than wage-work, by a pretty wide margin, so by it's very nature it produces less. To argue that, they wouldn't do something that would result in less production of goods is frankly, pretty silly, since slavery itself does this. On top of this, they deliberately would shackle them, prevent them from learning how to read or generally be educated, and whip them which lead to infections and blood loss, just as a matter of course, which in no way long term is a good thing. There is such a thing as just being stupid and inefficient, and the nature of slavery leads to less productive labor in the first place, hence why they continued the practices.
@snake There were a couple different mindsets. One was to not kill or mame the slaves due to them being valuable. The other was to make sure they stayed subdued at all costs to prevent any thoughts of an uprising. Which was more common.
However, both mindsets are treating people like chattle to be bought, sold, dehumanized, and thrown away. Why are you defending that position at all, even indirectly. I'm confused.