you dont *need* a 10x10m home with space to live in, you dont *need* a tv or internet but we *want* it. And i for sure would *want* a planet sized mansion

but we can substantiate that demand

mood

there is also the issue of replication

@Deleted User mood?

im agreeing with you ?

there is individual autonomy whereby one could replicate the very devices and products they could acquire with currency

in a near future

in such a world what would be the use of currency

or rather

the use of currency would become much more limited as it would be an effective mix between gift and market economy if the valuation of certain goods approach null

and someone will probably make a claim to whatever they make so its again not as simple as "1.5x food for every human on earth" someone owns it and is using it in some way

The point was that post-scarcity has already been achieved for food

but the rest of the economy isn't built for communism as result of scarcity for other product

and in a world where every individual can have their own means of production and have the information to replicate product, product devaluation would ensue

first point no, since its harder for one person to get it than another its not post.
And i go back to the production, just because there is enough doesn't mean its as simple as "stop this group from *hording* it and give it to those with less" if the only reason there is more is because those with the ability want to make use of it in some way, its not just sitting not being used and free to reditribute like someone owning a lake next to a dying town

Yes it's harder under a market economy

not under a gift economy

and it's not 'stop this group from hoarding'

it's more construct a society where hoarding isn't necessary as goods are devalued

same with money, the reason the 1% have so much is because they make it year after year for their own wants. if you take it they will stop producing it because there is no point, working to the lowest speed to maintain your life with no room to improve

Right and what about worker co-ops?

do worker co-ops involve stealing from bosses?

im searching it now but im not familiar with worker co-ops

It's a business where the workers are also the owners of the business

a popular example is the mondragon corporation

all profit from the business goes back to the workers and to investment

rather than to a owner

who then delegates a portion of his profits to the workers

The point is i'm not trying to steal, but I'm trying to do what worker co-ops do: build the infrastructure to make it such that it is unnecessary to have a boss. In this case it is unnecessary to hoard

I'm a voluntaryist so I would never coerce someone to take their property and redistribute it

back, i was reading this: https://canadianworker.coop/about/what-is-a-worker-co-op/

There are different models of worker co-ops but they all have one thing in common which is removing the need for the singular owner role

my problem with that is it easily becomes bloated and stagnant, even on small scales, you see this with any small town. If someone has the ability to make and run an empire they should have the right to do so. This for me falls on the side if me wanting more individual freedom. Less limitations to a person the better so long as it doesnt hamper the same or safety of another

people can from the pooled resources in a post-scarcity society

but this is assuming post-scarcity

It's not that I want to restrict currency or purchasing, I just want to build a platform where it would be unnecessary and counter-productive to do so

but if someone owns them then its not post, you still have to trade in some way to obtain what somone else has

by forcing limitations on something you are restricting it

right and hoarding is unnecessary if such action prevents yourself from gaining from a shared pool

such behaviour can be repressed in the same way gifting is repressed in a market economy