And what about space travel

yeah dropping all tech isn't realistic

you have to balance shit

Technology developed upon abstraction will only lead to destruction

I mean what even Ted knew it would require mass death

apocalypse tier shit

mass destruction

So lead technology and society in a direction instead of giving the wheel to someone else

It would: https://modernsurvivalblog.com/systemic-risk/9-electric-power-grid-substations-will-bring-it-all-down/

It would be easy enough to bring it all down now

Our comfortability is not guaranteed

Never forget that

Oh. Well tell me the easy answer @Code Blue

also you do realize that if you weree to roll back shit

millions of people /would/ die of starvation

Millions to save what would inevitably be trillions

only modern tech can make the amount of food to feed as many people as it does

as many people we have that is

@bergur There is no easy answer

Yes it is all very dynamic isn't it @Code Blue

Which is why it's susceptible to chaos theory

The issue isn't that stopping the use of advanced tech would kill billions...

thing is it would regarding food production

Communista

I don't think it's possible at fucking all to make enough food

with pre-industrial tech

there's no way in hell we could sustain the current world's population

The issue is that we used tech to expand population to a point where without it's assistance we are fucked

yeah lol

I mean

that's functionally the same as what I am saying

Should've stayed small

I mean I guess we could gradually let the population drop

degrowth and whatnot

Hopefully we get colonized by aliens, so 200 years down the line we can make them feel bad about it and get them to charitably fund our lives in our desolate resource-drained planet

lol

Alien Guilt

I do think people have been too far removed from natural situation of having to get their own food. And it is only recently that mass human population has been removed from such an every day event that has always been foundational @Murenu

yeah true

Most Americans had chickens and a garden etc only like a lifetime ago

My italian grandma had a garden