Message from @Code Blue

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2019-12-09 07:37:47 UTC  

but he was too dogmatic about ANYTHING being bad that wasn't what satisfied it

2019-12-09 07:38:07 UTC  

and he had no concept of ethnicity/organic society (tbh I don't expect most modern westerners to have that concept)

2019-12-09 07:38:51 UTC  

his analysis is mostly good

2019-12-09 07:39:27 UTC  

I think archaeofuturism is the most "extreme" realistic solution without going full emp apocalypse like he would want

2019-12-09 07:47:40 UTC  

@Code Blue so who will harness the laser technology when the epic people go to the forests to go back to living like cavemen

2019-12-09 07:48:19 UTC  

And what about space travel

2019-12-09 07:48:19 UTC  

yeah dropping all tech isn't realistic

2019-12-09 07:48:28 UTC  

you have to balance shit

2019-12-09 07:48:51 UTC  

Technology developed upon abstraction will only lead to destruction

2019-12-09 07:48:58 UTC  

I mean what even Ted knew it would require mass death

2019-12-09 07:49:01 UTC  

apocalypse tier shit

2019-12-09 07:49:03 UTC  

mass destruction

2019-12-09 07:49:20 UTC  

So lead technology and society in a direction instead of giving the wheel to someone else

2019-12-09 07:49:34 UTC  

It would be easy enough to bring it all down now

2019-12-09 07:51:45 UTC  

Our comfortability is not guaranteed

2019-12-09 07:51:48 UTC  

Never forget that

2019-12-09 07:53:51 UTC  

Oh. Well tell me the easy answer @Code Blue

2019-12-09 07:54:04 UTC  

also you do realize that if you weree to roll back shit

2019-12-09 07:54:11 UTC  

millions of people /would/ die of starvation

2019-12-09 07:54:27 UTC  

Millions to save what would inevitably be trillions

2019-12-09 07:54:35 UTC  

only modern tech can make the amount of food to feed as many people as it does

2019-12-09 07:54:42 UTC  

as many people we have that is

2019-12-09 07:55:23 UTC  

@bergur There is no easy answer

2019-12-09 08:02:34 UTC  

Yes it is all very dynamic isn't it @Code Blue

2019-12-09 08:02:56 UTC  

Which is why it's susceptible to chaos theory

2019-12-09 08:14:03 UTC  

The issue isn't that stopping the use of advanced tech would kill billions...

2019-12-09 08:14:17 UTC  

thing is it would regarding food production

2019-12-09 08:14:28 UTC  

Communista

2019-12-09 08:14:28 UTC  

I don't think it's possible at fucking all to make enough food

2019-12-09 08:14:32 UTC  

with pre-industrial tech

2019-12-09 08:14:42 UTC  

there's no way in hell we could sustain the current world's population

2019-12-09 08:15:08 UTC  

The issue is that we used tech to expand population to a point where without it's assistance we are fucked

2019-12-09 08:15:14 UTC  

yeah lol

2019-12-09 08:15:15 UTC  

I mean

2019-12-09 08:15:20 UTC  

that's functionally the same as what I am saying

2019-12-09 08:15:22 UTC  

Should've stayed small

2019-12-09 08:15:32 UTC  

I mean I guess we could gradually let the population drop

2019-12-09 08:15:42 UTC  

degrowth and whatnot

2019-12-09 08:20:12 UTC  

Hopefully we get colonized by aliens, so 200 years down the line we can make them feel bad about it and get them to charitably fund our lives in our desolate resource-drained planet

2019-12-09 08:20:41 UTC  

lol