@bergur Ted K was right

Technological society can not progress

Core things Ted said are true tbh

but

he was like hyperfocused on that being the be-all end-all

Power process is true, def

but he was too dogmatic about ANYTHING being bad that wasn't what satisfied it

and he had no concept of ethnicity/organic society (tbh I don't expect most modern westerners to have that concept)

his analysis is mostly good

I think archaeofuturism is the most "extreme" realistic solution without going full emp apocalypse like he would want

@Code Blue so who will harness the laser technology when the epic people go to the forests to go back to living like cavemen

And what about space travel

yeah dropping all tech isn't realistic

you have to balance shit

Technology developed upon abstraction will only lead to destruction

I mean what even Ted knew it would require mass death

apocalypse tier shit

mass destruction

So lead technology and society in a direction instead of giving the wheel to someone else

It would: https://modernsurvivalblog.com/systemic-risk/9-electric-power-grid-substations-will-bring-it-all-down/

It would be easy enough to bring it all down now

Our comfortability is not guaranteed

Never forget that

Oh. Well tell me the easy answer @Code Blue

also you do realize that if you weree to roll back shit

millions of people /would/ die of starvation

Millions to save what would inevitably be trillions

only modern tech can make the amount of food to feed as many people as it does

as many people we have that is

@bergur There is no easy answer

Yes it is all very dynamic isn't it @Code Blue

Which is why it's susceptible to chaos theory

The issue isn't that stopping the use of advanced tech would kill billions...

thing is it would regarding food production

Communista

I don't think it's possible at fucking all to make enough food

with pre-industrial tech

there's no way in hell we could sustain the current world's population

The issue is that we used tech to expand population to a point where without it's assistance we are fucked

yeah lol

I mean