Message from @Reaps

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2018-02-22 18:09:17 UTC  

It is always abou these feel good legislations

2018-02-22 18:09:24 UTC  

focus on the spectacle

2018-02-22 18:09:28 UTC  

the spectacle of mass shootings

2018-02-22 18:09:48 UTC  

use that as a vector to spread your gun control (I hate using this word because it sounds so Alex Jones-y now) agenda

2018-02-22 18:09:58 UTC  

Also I dont think any of these laws could survive a constitutional challenge

2018-02-22 18:10:13 UTC  

but consider if someone who is pro-2A just said "yeah, sure, let's ban long rifles. happy now?"

2018-02-22 18:10:19 UTC  

and they'd have to admit they're not happy

2018-02-22 18:10:28 UTC  

because most of them *do* want to get rid of handguns and the like too

2018-02-22 18:10:37 UTC  

But you can't win popular opinion in that fashion

2018-02-22 18:10:46 UTC  

Start with scary black 'military' rifles

2018-02-22 18:11:13 UTC  

reminds me of the abortion debate, and how quickly it wheels to "what about rape, incest and the health of the mother?"

2018-02-22 18:11:34 UTC  

If you just go "alright, let's make those legal, and make all other forms of abortion illegal. so you're happy now, right?"

2018-02-22 18:11:43 UTC  

the answer is gonna be "well... actually.."

2018-02-22 18:17:23 UTC  

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2018-02-22 18:32:36 UTC  

@Reaps
He is right on the mental illness part

2018-02-22 18:37:35 UTC  

Reopen the insane asylum

2018-02-22 18:39:53 UTC  

yeah

2018-02-22 18:40:08 UTC  

there's an irony I'm seeing though

2018-02-22 18:40:23 UTC  

everyone is sperging out about the choice of words Dana used regarding mentally ill people

2018-02-22 18:40:26 UTC  

saying she's 'out of touch'

2018-02-22 18:43:19 UTC  

whilst simultaneously ignoring that background checks in many (all?) states check for things like a prior history of mental illness

But even then it's not cut-and-dry. Just like the argument for 'if you're on a no-fly list you shouldn't be able to buy a gun', you can't just blanket ban anyone who has X

There are plenty of people out there who have *some* form of mental illness - doesn't mean they're more prone to violence than anyone else or are likely to commit a fucking mass shooting. Is autism a mental illness? asperger's? What about... gender dismorphia?

Also, sitting politicians have been put on the no-fly list - if anything it's another fantastic example of how inept any government bureaucracy can be at handling this shit

2018-02-22 18:55:21 UTC  

The federal backround check is the same in all states

2018-02-22 19:02:59 UTC  

And i think due process rights trump issues like the no fly

2018-02-22 19:03:14 UTC  

If no fly was just a notifier to police that might be fine

2018-02-22 19:27:49 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/385307110813990913/416315161608060928/1519305126490-922256345.jpg

2018-02-22 19:30:06 UTC  

oh jesus christ

2018-02-22 19:30:09 UTC  

hahahahha

2018-02-22 19:30:22 UTC  

I'm not even American and I know... that this..

2018-02-22 19:30:24 UTC  

...yeah..

2018-02-22 19:30:27 UTC  

rofl

2018-02-22 19:31:31 UTC  

Lol this was killing my sides

2018-02-22 19:46:08 UTC  

Meh, I don't get it.

Something related to the spread of the projectiles?

2018-02-22 19:48:47 UTC  

It's...

2018-02-22 19:48:56 UTC  

it's illegal to do what was just done to the barrel

2018-02-22 19:49:13 UTC  

basically just took a legal firearm and made it an illegal one

2018-02-22 19:55:07 UTC  

Oooo

2018-02-22 19:55:11 UTC  

Got it

2018-02-22 20:01:26 UTC  

I can see 2A peeps getting pissy at this

2018-02-22 20:01:32 UTC  

But it could wind up being the right play

2018-02-22 20:01:34 UTC  

*could*