Message from @Reaps

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2018-02-22 18:07:40 UTC  

not really

2018-02-22 18:07:46 UTC  

we'd be here for the next five hours

2018-02-22 18:07:52 UTC  

and it's 4am

2018-02-22 18:07:55 UTC  

Why not mention the fact hand guns are responsible for the majority of it?

2018-02-22 18:08:07 UTC  

It was a rhetoric question

2018-02-22 18:08:16 UTC  

:P

2018-02-22 18:08:50 UTC  

No one mentions hand guns in these debates

2018-02-22 18:09:04 UTC  

"do you think we should be able to buy nukes?!?!?!?!?"
"well alright then, let's ban the personal ownership of nuclear weapons. Happy now?"
"well... no.."
"SO WHY THE FUCK DID YOU BRING IT UP, DUMMY"

2018-02-22 18:09:11 UTC  

there's a reasoning behind that

2018-02-22 18:09:17 UTC  

It is always abou these feel good legislations

2018-02-22 18:09:24 UTC  

focus on the spectacle

2018-02-22 18:09:28 UTC  

the spectacle of mass shootings

2018-02-22 18:09:48 UTC  

use that as a vector to spread your gun control (I hate using this word because it sounds so Alex Jones-y now) agenda

2018-02-22 18:09:58 UTC  

Also I dont think any of these laws could survive a constitutional challenge

2018-02-22 18:10:13 UTC  

but consider if someone who is pro-2A just said "yeah, sure, let's ban long rifles. happy now?"

2018-02-22 18:10:19 UTC  

and they'd have to admit they're not happy

2018-02-22 18:10:28 UTC  

because most of them *do* want to get rid of handguns and the like too

2018-02-22 18:10:37 UTC  

But you can't win popular opinion in that fashion

2018-02-22 18:10:46 UTC  

Start with scary black 'military' rifles

2018-02-22 18:11:13 UTC  

reminds me of the abortion debate, and how quickly it wheels to "what about rape, incest and the health of the mother?"

2018-02-22 18:11:34 UTC  

If you just go "alright, let's make those legal, and make all other forms of abortion illegal. so you're happy now, right?"

2018-02-22 18:11:43 UTC  

the answer is gonna be "well... actually.."

2018-02-22 18:17:23 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/385307110813990913/416297435329986570/image_7.png

2018-02-22 18:32:36 UTC  

@Reaps
He is right on the mental illness part

2018-02-22 18:37:35 UTC  

Reopen the insane asylum

2018-02-22 18:39:53 UTC  

yeah

2018-02-22 18:40:08 UTC  

there's an irony I'm seeing though

2018-02-22 18:40:23 UTC  

everyone is sperging out about the choice of words Dana used regarding mentally ill people

2018-02-22 18:40:26 UTC  

saying she's 'out of touch'

2018-02-22 18:43:19 UTC  

whilst simultaneously ignoring that background checks in many (all?) states check for things like a prior history of mental illness

But even then it's not cut-and-dry. Just like the argument for 'if you're on a no-fly list you shouldn't be able to buy a gun', you can't just blanket ban anyone who has X

There are plenty of people out there who have *some* form of mental illness - doesn't mean they're more prone to violence than anyone else or are likely to commit a fucking mass shooting. Is autism a mental illness? asperger's? What about... gender dismorphia?

Also, sitting politicians have been put on the no-fly list - if anything it's another fantastic example of how inept any government bureaucracy can be at handling this shit

2018-02-22 18:55:21 UTC  

The federal backround check is the same in all states

2018-02-22 19:02:59 UTC  

And i think due process rights trump issues like the no fly

2018-02-22 19:03:14 UTC  

If no fly was just a notifier to police that might be fine

2018-02-22 19:27:49 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/385307110813990913/416315161608060928/1519305126490-922256345.jpg

2018-02-22 19:30:06 UTC  

oh jesus christ

2018-02-22 19:30:09 UTC  

hahahahha

2018-02-22 19:30:22 UTC  

I'm not even American and I know... that this..

2018-02-22 19:30:24 UTC  

...yeah..

2018-02-22 19:30:27 UTC  

rofl

2018-02-22 19:31:31 UTC  

Lol this was killing my sides

2018-02-22 19:46:08 UTC  

Meh, I don't get it.

Something related to the spread of the projectiles?