in a use case where he actually needed a super precise shot; it's not like he's likely to do significant followups

so cycling the action is not super duper important

he was a really good shooter though

like; he was hitting the center of those fucking little stickers without any problem

I ran out of ladder tests, zoomed in on his target and watched him shoot

I want to get to his skill level

but I do not want to be as obese as he was

giant beer belly

sad thing is; with my SPR (18", SS, Heavy profile ML Gas) AR, I can shoot better followups than with my fucking super expensive 338 lap

First shot I'm generally dead on; everything after that is usually offset because I keep fucking flinching like a pussy

I take it that you have an armory?

not really

aw

I have 4 distinct rifles (AR w/ .458 socom 16", AR w/ 223 wylde 18", Savage FVSR 22lr, and my sako TRG-42 in 338 lap)

and one pistol

The .458 was just a workaround; I didn't want to need to ditch my standard cap kits so I re-labeled them all to 458

Also; I did want to buy a 45/70, and this is just as good

I don't really have anything milsurp, although I might get ahold of a M1A in 308 so I can go 2 gun

I didn't want to go and get some rifle that would get me halfway to 2000Y

so I wasn't really attracted to 6.5CM

Would a clockwork or otherwise heavily built trigger mechanism fix the bullpup trigger issue?

So that there's no metal flex involved or shenanigans from shitty trigger linkages

yeah

there are a handful of good designs

some of them rely on sear based pin drops

i.e. the trigger group is still in the handguard, but the pin assy is linked with a long L bracket that catches on the sear

The only thing that has bothered me about bullpups is a assessablity of the magazine. If there was a way to do a mag change while keeping the barrel pointed at what i was engaging it would be more appealing.

It might just be something to practice but i dont think i have every seen some able to do this

https://youtu.be/YgNjfXbjrk0

Maybe it is just because all i have every really trained with was an M4

@DanConway
I guess that's the problem.

If you find someone who only trained in bullpups, they might reach a similar conclusion

there are a few tactics

I feel the setbacks generally outweigh the advantages from a civilian perspective

in a bolt gun it's not too much of a pain

@DanConway Maybe top feeding LMGs can make a comback in bullpup form? No need for a decent trigger pull on those

doubtful

I think the AR style platform will see material changes for about the next 30-40 years until there's some breakthrough

from the GPMG perspective, it's gonna be all belts

from the SAW-style things; it'll probably just be standard rifle body + different barrel + larger mags

surefire's 60's are pretty nice

The Marines have gone back to sort of a WWII style LMG with the IAR.