Message from @Alexmikli
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It's not a common argument
And now for something completely tangential https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eubgJj8Ortw
just one that 0-100 pisses me off
Like I figure a lot of of you like Civilization
I only have 5
not all of you llike Civiizatlion Revolutions or Civ 6
Got it for free for voting in a poll by GreenManGaming IIRC
and civ 5 was a massive fucking disaster at launch
I got mine a few years after it's launch, so it's been fine for me
yeah the patches and expacs made it much better
but to put into perspective
day-1 DLC was not the normal back then and they gated Babylon, a civ that's been a day 1 base game civ since the first game, behind a DLC
People were pissed
Trading posts were the only way to manage an economy
@Alexmikli I consider interplay/obsidian’s fallout different from Bethesda’s fallout
the AI would denounce you for no reason and if one country denounced you, they all dead
and it had almost no features from civ 4 that everyone loved
Also by civ 5's released people were used to heavily modded civ 4 with all expacs and civ 5 is far harder to mod than civ 4
Like go and check on what mods you can get for civ 4 and then compare them to what you get for civ 5
The difference is stark.
I haven't played much of 3 or 4
Just don't like them at all
I thought 3 was a pretty good game
It was more consistent lore wise then 4
There were a looooot of inconsistencies
they're just so well known now that people forgot
Shit like vault 87 mutants, the brotherhood, the Enclave even beign alive
a lot of contrivances for the sake of iconic thigns
radscorpions being in DC
deathclaws, jet...
Like shit that *can* be in a place, but it really does raise the question of *why* they're in the place.
Also the appearance of Enclave Power Armor is odd
it's 100 before everything
Also a lot of dumb shit like the kids in the cave
also, the fact that there is no NPCs
That's 76
I was talking about 3
76 just looks like disaster
it's just... they are making fallout online, and pretending it's something new
It could be good but oooof