You do realise that you are not going to be able to selectively breed personalities right?

The way Islam spreads isn't through personalities.

this will then cause certain personalities to be favored and they will reach greater heights of the social hierarchy which will cause them to reproduce

It forces itself onto children.

And indoctrinates them.

over the less favore personalities

And also, why intervene in the natural mating process?

hm? that is the natural mating process. have good traits that are suited for the social group's ideals, reach high in the hierarchy, get laid

Not really.

Natural mating is not about reaching high in a hierarchy.

that's the way it's *intended* to work, let's say it like that

status helps you get good mates. following the group's ideals gets you status. having traits suitable for those ideals lets you follow those ideals

ultimately that's not how it does these days, but anyhow

You are thinking abotu status the wrong way around.

Both in natural society and in modern society status gives you access to mates. It's nothing to do with having the right personality.

I'd contest that, to an extent

Ok say you have a population A whose gene pool favors personality A that favors principles A, and population B geen pool does not favor peronality A, but they follow prinicples A. Would population B then independly developed gene pool that favors personality A. Therefore you don't need to be conserned of the gene's of the population and only the principles.

Personality can aid or hamper your attempts to gain status

status may be retained by some other means, but that must be attained at some point

Of course it fucking can @Smak64

Okay, so maybe I just misunderstood what you meant then

I'm just trying to understand why this matters?

What would you be aiming to accomplish?

A completely descriptive morality based on evolution

bypassing the is/ought problem

probably well out of my ballpark then, I'm gonna fuck off

and also reframing our idea of "individualism"

So you are trying to create a morality based on the evolutionary preferences of humans?

yeah basically

I wouldn't say "create" but yeah

Discover perhaps then

derive from evolutionary principles

theory, rather

@Apotheosis so what do you think would happen in the hypothetical I propose?

Well I would ask you two things:
1. Is it practicable? would this morality actually be able to hold sway against those created by society rather than theory?
2. Is it intended to be so? because its always interesting to muse on things but replacing the individual morality of all the people in society is nigh impossible. You can at best manipulate it.

I think it is "practicable" in the sense that it can provide a better perspective on moral issues especially to handle moral "relativism" between groups, to justify and work with our tribalistic tendencies

as for replacing people's morality... I think it may instead reframe and complete the moral conceptions of others

to understand our moral instincts and intuitions

Okay, I think I understand it a bit better now. Well I hope you're writing your thoughts down somewhere other than here, it might be something worth posting somewhere.

yeah I'm just bouncing ideas of off people

seeing what holds water