or other groups

But its better to pass it on orally insted of genticly. As gentics only passes ideals to a fraction (also only one chance, while you can talk to someone many times).

yes, without that it only passes them on insofar as personality and IQ traits are passed down. These traits would need to give rise to values all over again if nothing were passed down orally

however, as it is effective, passing down the principles, the tradition, becomes part of an effective culture

this causes the following feedback loop:

environment -> traits give rise to principles/culture -> cultural development affects environment -> repeat

If people holding one ideology outbreed other people, it can create bubbles, societal pressure to maintain the ideology.

yes. however it is also an effective aspect of a culture to allow for adaptation

What are you talking about? Are you suggesting that ideologies are passed on through your genes?

not entirely

As far as I know, personalities can which then affect which idelogies your likly to pick

yes

I don't think genetics is involved. Bring 10 minions to this world, force them to be drones to your ideology, done it's spreading.

You do realise that you are not going to be able to selectively breed personalities right?

The way Islam spreads isn't through personalities.

this will then cause certain personalities to be favored and they will reach greater heights of the social hierarchy which will cause them to reproduce

It forces itself onto children.

And indoctrinates them.

over the less favore personalities

And also, why intervene in the natural mating process?

hm? that is the natural mating process. have good traits that are suited for the social group's ideals, reach high in the hierarchy, get laid

Not really.

Natural mating is not about reaching high in a hierarchy.

that's the way it's *intended* to work, let's say it like that

status helps you get good mates. following the group's ideals gets you status. having traits suitable for those ideals lets you follow those ideals

ultimately that's not how it does these days, but anyhow

You are thinking abotu status the wrong way around.

Both in natural society and in modern society status gives you access to mates. It's nothing to do with having the right personality.

I'd contest that, to an extent

Ok say you have a population A whose gene pool favors personality A that favors principles A, and population B geen pool does not favor peronality A, but they follow prinicples A. Would population B then independly developed gene pool that favors personality A. Therefore you don't need to be conserned of the gene's of the population and only the principles.

Personality can aid or hamper your attempts to gain status

status may be retained by some other means, but that must be attained at some point

Of course it fucking can @Smak64

Okay, so maybe I just misunderstood what you meant then

I'm just trying to understand why this matters?

What would you be aiming to accomplish?

A completely descriptive morality based on evolution

bypassing the is/ought problem

probably well out of my ballpark then, I'm gonna fuck off

and also reframing our idea of "individualism"

So you are trying to create a morality based on the evolutionary preferences of humans?