Message from @Reaps
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I think guns would have significantly altered the logistics and efficacy of arresting all the Jews.
How many knew they were going to die and did nothing?
Yes, Hitler could then put more effort into locking down cities for the purges, but how much more expensive would it be?
How many willing entered the trains?
Hoe many watched while the SS executed them in front of them?
The majority of the populace don't stand up and fight in either case; but when word gets around of mass killings and reprisals, that tends to have the opposite effect of making people docile; formerly cooperative citizens will do the bare minimum required of them, and only when under the supervision of the occupying forces. It's one of the many reasons German equipment got progressively worse as they were using citizens from occupied countries to build their own weapons of war, leading to numerous sabotaged weaponry rolling out of the factory and towards the front lines. Other citizens who don't 'stand up and fight' whom had family amongst the dead have a renewed reason to assist in any way they can, even if it's just relaying information to resistance fighters
Yeah, but how many actually did that?
It's a pretty small number, right?
The 1938 act ("Regulations Against Jews' Possession of Weapons") came into effect *after* Kristallnacht
Look, who wanted to fight did, and died fighting
There is a lot of examples of that
what tism is going on here
Some of then had guns? Yeah, some don't
And they fought the same way
This wasn't a case of Hitler waking up one day and going 'time to get rid of the gunzzzzzzzzzz'
It was incremental over several years, dismantling the ability of his opponents to mount any effective opposition to him in *any* fashion
I get it
Still, people who wanted to fight
Did it
And people have a habit of denying the horror of what is happening, and delaying the inevitable
And you have no way to do anything about it
You get on the train
and hope for the best
The majority of people would do it
Reaps, the cold harsh truth is
The majority of the world population are just followers
Sheeps
Or whatever you want to call them
Most people don't have in them what it takes to stand up and fight for something
There are some that can acquire some fighting spirit? Yeah
Someone that saw an heroic act and decided to stand up against what's happening
But the majority of the population, will just lower their heads and move on with their lives
If, say, Venezuelans, had guns, would they tearing a cow to shreds to eat, or would they be on a shootout with the government?
You do not need even close to a majority of people to resist in order to make things incredibly difficult for an opposing force
@DanielKO
They don't have guns
Thus the "if".
And they are fighting the government
Guns are not hard to acquire, it's not today and it wasn't at that time
But they're not cheap either.
This just comes across as a dystopian argument. Anyhoo, it's 0500 now, so if y'all want to continue this, be my guest I guess 🤷