Message from @DanielKO
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And it's not like that wasn't a huge propoganda coup for the allies when they did it
They did
Lol
They did still
And even with them doing it
The majority of people didn't stand up and fought
I don't think your words are making sense.
yeah
Did the population, under Nazi control, have guns to protect themselves?
I don't think you understand what you arw talking about
this went off the rails quickly
You really giving me shit for being Brazilian
Because you can't make an argument
I'm not. I guess you're too sensitive about it.
You are comparing police action with an authoritarian government
And Implying it's the same thing
I was going to use an European country for that, but they're all pussies now.
Guns don't give you magical powers
Guns won't make you brave
Guns won't make you a warrior
@DanielKO
It don't mean much when they can kill everyone
The idea that "if they had guns this wouldn't have happened" is just nonsense
If you know you're going to die if they come and take you away, wouldn't rather die trying to kill as many as you could?
@DanielKO
Yeah, how many they killed again?
I think guns would have significantly altered the logistics and efficacy of arresting all the Jews.
How many knew they were going to die and did nothing?
Yes, Hitler could then put more effort into locking down cities for the purges, but how much more expensive would it be?
How many willing entered the trains?
Hoe many watched while the SS executed them in front of them?
The majority of the populace don't stand up and fight in either case; but when word gets around of mass killings and reprisals, that tends to have the opposite effect of making people docile; formerly cooperative citizens will do the bare minimum required of them, and only when under the supervision of the occupying forces. It's one of the many reasons German equipment got progressively worse as they were using citizens from occupied countries to build their own weapons of war, leading to numerous sabotaged weaponry rolling out of the factory and towards the front lines. Other citizens who don't 'stand up and fight' whom had family amongst the dead have a renewed reason to assist in any way they can, even if it's just relaying information to resistance fighters
Yeah, but how many actually did that?
It's a pretty small number, right?
The 1938 act ("Regulations Against Jews' Possession of Weapons") came into effect *after* Kristallnacht
Look, who wanted to fight did, and died fighting
There is a lot of examples of that
what tism is going on here
Some of then had guns? Yeah, some don't
And they fought the same way
This wasn't a case of Hitler waking up one day and going 'time to get rid of the gunzzzzzzzzzz'
It was incremental over several years, dismantling the ability of his opponents to mount any effective opposition to him in *any* fashion