Message from @DanConway
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No
Of northern pagans
@DanConway
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It was consentual
i guess easter was something else too
Truly consentual
The counsel of Nicea decided the date of easter but it was nonconforming between the east and west
Not the wanna be *arranged marriage but woman wond defy the family*
Handfasting was the first true consent of the bride
Christianity adopted that
If the marriage was not consensual it could be annulled
But that is where the west gained this tradition
There wasnt a non consentual marriage in handfasting.
And either side could call it off.
Who handfasted?
Picts, Norse, I believe as well the Gauls and Germanics
The germanics no
The church had a huge problem trying to convince them of how marriage worked
Handfasting worked different than marriage
One major was either member could *divorce*
This would have inferiated the catholics
Yes they disagree with divorce
but the marrige tradition as we know it was solidified by the church
But that doesnt denote the fact handfasting was the first form of consentual marriage. And again. Real consent. No arranged, and in many cases no *dowery*
And the tradition is from the church
that was the first point brought forward
Wrong.
being first
Handfasting did first
again
Do you know what first means?
the tradition as we know it wa brought forward from the church
Catholicism simply *survived*
you have no evidence the church took this tradition from them
if you did you would present it
You have no evidence they didnt
You brought forward the point
I presented evidence you didnt know of the church taking many things from pagans
the odus is on you
That is not what we are arguing about