Your point was it was *the first*

Handfasting

No

Of northern pagans

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It was consentual

i guess easter was something else too

Truly consentual

The counsel of Nicea decided the date of easter but it was nonconforming between the east and west

Not the wanna be *arranged marriage but woman wond defy the family*

Handfasting was the first true consent of the bride

Christianity adopted that

If the marriage was not consensual it could be annulled

But that is where the west gained this tradition

There wasnt a non consentual marriage in handfasting.

And either side could call it off.

Who handfasted?

Picts, Norse, I believe as well the Gauls and Germanics

The germanics no

The church had a huge problem trying to convince them of how marriage worked

Handfasting worked different than marriage

One major was either member could *divorce*

As with the moors

This would have inferiated the catholics

Yes they disagree with divorce

but the marrige tradition as we know it was solidified by the church

But that doesnt denote the fact handfasting was the first form of consentual marriage. And again. Real consent. No arranged, and in many cases no *dowery*

And the tradition is from the church

that was the first point brought forward

Wrong.

being first

Handfasting did first

again

Do you know what first means?

the tradition as we know it wa brought forward from the church

Catholicism simply *survived*

you have no evidence the church took this tradition from them

if you did you would present it

You have no evidence they didnt

You brought forward the point

I presented evidence you didnt know of the church taking many things from pagans