Message from @Harazu Keshtah

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2018-07-09 21:52:54 UTC  

question to ya'll. if we somehow manage to find FTL, and start colonizing new worlds, who will own the newly colonized land? how will nations work? would we all need to cooperate as a new world order? what happens if a corporation colonizes a planet, will they be the new nation?

2018-07-09 21:55:06 UTC  

likely it'll just be a political repeat of the age of exploration

2018-07-09 21:55:49 UTC  

we could potential have planets called mcdonalds land (remember virginia)

2018-07-09 21:56:18 UTC  

wha

2018-07-09 21:56:25 UTC  

what happened in virginia

2018-07-09 21:56:41 UTC  

if I remember right virginina is named for a corperation that existed at the time

2018-07-09 21:56:51 UTC  

whaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

2018-07-09 21:56:53 UTC  

cool

2018-07-09 21:58:23 UTC  

@MountainMan I think it's more likey that individual nations will conduct their own colonization efforts

2018-07-09 21:58:43 UTC  

and it would take some historic event for the world to unite, maybe

2018-07-09 21:59:09 UTC  

So would that whole country colonize the planet? So we have a planet being under China, whilst China still has land on earth?

2018-07-09 21:59:18 UTC  
2018-07-09 22:00:20 UTC  

@MountainMan It could be split

2018-07-09 22:00:29 UTC  

I honesty don't know

2018-07-09 22:00:29 UTC  

Outer Space Treaty still exists.

2018-07-09 22:00:38 UTC  

big hmmmmm

2018-07-09 22:00:44 UTC  

No land off earth can legally be claimed by any signatory.

2018-07-09 22:00:45 UTC  

we could have another treaty of tordesillas

2018-07-09 22:01:00 UTC  

hmmm

2018-07-09 22:01:17 UTC  

And such claims are likely to be completely ignored by any signatories as well.

2018-07-09 22:02:12 UTC  

@Somi when colonization becomes a thing I'm sure that treaty will ge torn up

2018-07-09 22:02:26 UTC  

^

2018-07-09 22:02:53 UTC  

I'm thinking pretty sci fie. So tech for colonization ain't a problem. I'm just thinking of how the practicality would work.

2018-07-09 22:02:58 UTC  

Like, who gets to own the new lands?

2018-07-09 22:03:15 UTC  

treaties

2018-07-09 22:03:16 UTC  

Would it even work without the world uniting under a single banner?

2018-07-09 22:03:19 UTC  

treaties

2018-07-09 22:03:20 UTC  

nice

2018-07-09 22:03:29 UTC  

I'm gonna be pretty honest

2018-07-09 22:03:42 UTC  

It's very, very likely that the modern definition of a nation state will be obsolete by that time.

2018-07-09 22:04:13 UTC  

There'd probably be a clearer dividing line between 'access to space' and 'no access to space' than between, say, the US and China.

2018-07-09 22:04:30 UTC  

hmmmm

2018-07-09 22:04:55 UTC  

it's entierly possible the private sector will be the first space colonists I refer you again to the virginia corperation

2018-07-09 22:05:05 UTC  

or more accuratly the london corperation

2018-07-09 22:05:23 UTC  

Did someone say SpaceX

2018-07-09 22:05:36 UTC  

^

2018-07-09 22:05:49 UTC  

I'm gonna immigrate to the musklands

2018-07-09 22:06:02 UTC  

if they colonize a planet, who owns the newly colonized world?

2018-07-09 22:06:11 UTC  

Do the corporation own it?

2018-07-09 22:06:19 UTC  

I don't see that working out.

2018-07-09 22:06:24 UTC  

But, refer to The Expanse for a semi-accurate indication if you ask me. Certain vested interests will be held with an iron grip by nation states/Future UN, while less vested interests can be summarized as 'no laws, only private entities calling themselves cops'