Message from @Capitán Alatriste

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2018-08-08 23:47:47 UTC  

Seems to be a policy you don't get from left wing egalitarians.

2018-08-08 23:47:49 UTC  

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2018-08-08 23:48:08 UTC  

Does sound like what the progessives do huh?

2018-08-08 23:48:19 UTC  

Maybe the progressives are actually far-right like the Nazis??

2018-08-08 23:48:34 UTC  

Or maybe neither that or what you said make sense in understanding these terms.

2018-08-08 23:49:39 UTC  

The motivations matter. The egalitarianism that motivates the left to the corrupt end is not the same as the ideals of racial supremacy that motivates the right to their corrupt end.

2018-08-08 23:50:04 UTC  

Nazis had the latter motivation, as does Richard Spencer, that is why they're right-wing.

2018-08-08 23:50:47 UTC  

We *colloquially* refer to racists as people on the Right, but Nazis specifically are left leaning authoritarians who base their politics on *identity*.

2018-08-08 23:51:38 UTC  

Going all the way back to France in the 1700s, the Left has been associated with topics related to Identity politics

2018-08-08 23:52:13 UTC  

Nah, you don't get to put all of identity politics on the backs of leftists.

2018-08-08 23:52:35 UTC  

Did you read the wiki I linked to?

2018-08-08 23:52:51 UTC  

Not the whole thing, can't be bothered really.

2018-08-08 23:53:09 UTC  

You can be bothered enough to argue with me.

2018-08-08 23:53:18 UTC  

I enjoy conversation.

2018-08-08 23:54:27 UTC  

I will go and try to hear about this Nazi-left wing authoritarian thing though, just not now. I have my evenings to myself. Tomorrow at work if I can find a good podcast maybe.

2018-08-08 23:54:49 UTC  

But I'm not one to buy anything like that upfront.

2018-08-08 23:56:19 UTC  

Nazies were left wing. they were more right than true facism yes but that only edges them closer to center.

2018-08-09 00:40:14 UTC  
2018-08-09 00:40:22 UTC  

2018-08-09 01:27:44 UTC  

^^^^^

2018-08-09 01:31:26 UTC  

The only socialist aspect of Nazism were the state funded economic projects and welfare systems

2018-08-09 01:31:41 UTC  

And worker unions

2018-08-09 01:31:49 UTC  

They banned them

2018-08-09 01:32:03 UTC  

They had party worker unions

2018-08-09 01:32:08 UTC  

Hitler banned workers unions to appease the industrialists

2018-08-09 01:32:15 UTC  

Thatbis how they controled industry

2018-08-09 01:32:35 UTC  

Only party members could control certain industry

2018-08-09 01:32:48 UTC  

and thats why mussolini said he wasnt facist enough

2018-08-09 01:33:19 UTC  

As well worker unions arnt socialist

2018-08-09 01:33:24 UTC  

they are syndicalist

2018-08-09 01:33:31 UTC  

Despite the party unions, worker unions or other form of worker representation of such was illegalised as it was considered bolshevism

2018-08-09 01:33:43 UTC  

German labor front

2018-08-09 01:33:54 UTC  

Same thing different name

2018-08-09 01:34:28 UTC  

Party control of industry and "privatization"

2018-08-09 01:34:39 UTC  

These were more to get workers to support the party rather than actually represent them

2018-08-09 01:34:46 UTC  

No

2018-08-09 01:34:49 UTC  

The key to socialism is the means of production primarily. Labor unions are counter that

2018-08-09 01:35:06 UTC  

The taxes where to gain support

2018-08-09 01:35:08 UTC  

Privatisation itself is completely anti socialist

2018-08-09 01:35:14 UTC  

Lol

2018-08-09 01:35:19 UTC  

It was mock privatization