Message from @RJ
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Authoritarian has little to do with L/R
I agree with that.
That's what I'm saying lol
But you said Richard Spencer wasn't right-wing?
Authoritarianism is not a 'Right wing' trait
Look at a freaking political compass for once
I don't see him from being much different from the Nazis, and I see them as being right-wing authoritarians.
I know the political compass man.
They're left-of-center, and all the way at the top.
Authoritarianism can happen anywhere on it, but that doesn't mean authoritarians aren't also *right-wing* authoritarians, or conversely left-wing authoritarians in the case of the Soviets.
Mussolini is *right of center*, and all the way at the top
Stalin is *far left* and at the top
Authoritarians are at the top, yeah.
I think the Nazi's are right wing.
And because Nazis are *socialists*, and *collectivize people*, they are on the *left*.
No, I think some of the things the Nazi's believed and practiced were far-left, but on the whole their motivations and dispositions seem far-right to me.
* facepalm
Name the 'right leaning policy' of theirs.
'We can order races in an ethnic hierarchy.'
Sounds like a progressive stack to me.
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Does sound like what the progessives do huh?
Maybe the progressives are actually far-right like the Nazis??
Or maybe neither that or what you said make sense in understanding these terms.
The motivations matter. The egalitarianism that motivates the left to the corrupt end is not the same as the ideals of racial supremacy that motivates the right to their corrupt end.
Nazis had the latter motivation, as does Richard Spencer, that is why they're right-wing.
We *colloquially* refer to racists as people on the Right, but Nazis specifically are left leaning authoritarians who base their politics on *identity*.
Going all the way back to France in the 1700s, the Left has been associated with topics related to Identity politics
Nah, you don't get to put all of identity politics on the backs of leftists.
Did you read the wiki I linked to?
Not the whole thing, can't be bothered really.
You can be bothered enough to argue with me.
I enjoy conversation.
I will go and try to hear about this Nazi-left wing authoritarian thing though, just not now. I have my evenings to myself. Tomorrow at work if I can find a good podcast maybe.
But I'm not one to buy anything like that upfront.
Nazies were left wing. they were more right than true facism yes but that only edges them closer to center.
^^^^^
The only socialist aspect of Nazism were the state funded economic projects and welfare systems