Message from @RJ
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I think the Nazi's are right wing.
And because Nazis are *socialists*, and *collectivize people*, they are on the *left*.
No, I think some of the things the Nazi's believed and practiced were far-left, but on the whole their motivations and dispositions seem far-right to me.
* facepalm
Name the 'right leaning policy' of theirs.
'We can order races in an ethnic hierarchy.'
Sounds like a progressive stack to me.
Seems to be a policy you don't get from left wing egalitarians.
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Does sound like what the progessives do huh?
Maybe the progressives are actually far-right like the Nazis??
Or maybe neither that or what you said make sense in understanding these terms.
The motivations matter. The egalitarianism that motivates the left to the corrupt end is not the same as the ideals of racial supremacy that motivates the right to their corrupt end.
Nazis had the latter motivation, as does Richard Spencer, that is why they're right-wing.
We *colloquially* refer to racists as people on the Right, but Nazis specifically are left leaning authoritarians who base their politics on *identity*.
Going all the way back to France in the 1700s, the Left has been associated with topics related to Identity politics
Nah, you don't get to put all of identity politics on the backs of leftists.
Did you read the wiki I linked to?
Not the whole thing, can't be bothered really.
You can be bothered enough to argue with me.
I will go and try to hear about this Nazi-left wing authoritarian thing though, just not now. I have my evenings to myself. Tomorrow at work if I can find a good podcast maybe.
But I'm not one to buy anything like that upfront.
Nazies were left wing. they were more right than true facism yes but that only edges them closer to center.
^^^^^
The only socialist aspect of Nazism were the state funded economic projects and welfare systems
And worker unions
They banned them
They had party worker unions
Hitler banned workers unions to appease the industrialists
Thatbis how they controled industry
Only party members could control certain industry
and thats why mussolini said he wasnt facist enough
As well worker unions arnt socialist
they are syndicalist
Despite the party unions, worker unions or other form of worker representation of such was illegalised as it was considered bolshevism
German labor front
Same thing different name
Party control of industry and "privatization"