Message from @Capitán Alatriste
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Same, I cant avoid the typos, sorry
Socialism isnt just a *step stone to communism*
Exactly
Seeing as true marxist communism is a pipe dream
Stateless moneless society
And classless
I do not see how wothout the state
Communism would be the next step by which the state transfers the power to the people. A step we have not yet seen
Destined to either be ruled from within [tyrant] or outside [conquest]
Anarchy does not seem to be possible
I forgot the abolition of classes of course. Vital
It ignored human nature
so qill never be seen
How can you measure the proper allocation of resources without money @Capitán Alatriste ?
Humans always want more, and want their own. That form of communism can never be, because it ignores this basic human condition. And someone will simply take it over.
How do you know how many airports to build and train tracks to lay?
Even Stalin recognized that
As production stagnated. When he awarded people he saw a boost to their production.
Linen also forsaw this
Linen <:Commie_ball:466404411535785995>
@DanConway ideally yes. If you define the resources by needs, not wants ie clothing, food, shelter, medicine etc... of course a modern economy is incapable of supporting this without a universal method of payment
So no would be the answer
If you measure and allocate based solely on that there will be no innovation
You can't
Innovation comes from different factors. Mostly competition, but also from scarcity
Even of the *communist* nations we have seen no innovation outside of militaristic ever came
In communism there is no competition
How can resourses be moved from place to place efficiently enough to not cause issues?
And no reward
So no human motivation
Money is a great indicator of when to build another lane
Or lay another set of tracks
Without this indicator you are blind
Or scarcity and needs
Scarcity usually lesds to human movement rather than new transport
^^^
So unless this all comes with the tyranny of a gov it would collapse quickly with scarcity
So you would let a famine happen to learn where the resources need to go?
Think of the first settlements in the neolithic times. Agriculture is very vasic. However the more the population grows, the more scarcity and pressure there is. So you are forced to innovate to satisfy the growing demands. There is no competition present
Also how can this work if it not global?
The first settlements still moved or sent out long range hunters