Depending on which actual fasist we are talking about

The overwehlming number fall to the left. Especially if they followed what musilini created as facist.

@DanConway socialism, as marx said is the stepping stone to communism by which the state has complete ownership of industry and the means of production. Private property does not exist and the economy is centrally planned to the needs of the workers.

Only a small handful fall right. Most of those were like imperial japan

South american "facism" was a lot more cneter

Cause marx is a great intelectual that you take seriously

Yes i understand that @Capitán Alatriste

Well he coined the term

So may as well use his definition

Facism was created later

So you mean if they are not using the policies as a stepping stone they are not socialist?

taking from totalitarian regimes and socialism by musillini

@DanConway that's my threshold

Well it would be a bad way to define it

And all saw at its creation that facism was a middle ground between communism and Democratic capitalism

So democratic socialists are not real socialist?

If they dont see communism as the end goal?

Democratic socialists are those that transition to socialism by means of a democratic vote

If not because

I am on mobile sorry

Same, I cant avoid the typos, sorry

Socialism isnt just a *step stone to communism*

Exactly

Seeing as true marxist communism is a pipe dream

Stateless moneless society

And classless

I do not see how wothout the state

Communism would be the next step by which the state transfers the power to the people. A step we have not yet seen

Destined to either be ruled from within [tyrant] or outside [conquest]

Anarchy does not seem to be possible

I forgot the abolition of classes of course. Vital

It ignored human nature

so qill never be seen

How can you measure the proper allocation of resources without money @Capitán Alatriste ?

Humans always want more, and want their own. That form of communism can never be, because it ignores this basic human condition. And someone will simply take it over.

How do you know how many airports to build and train tracks to lay?

Even Stalin recognized that

As production stagnated. When he awarded people he saw a boost to their production.

Linen also forsaw this

Linen <:Commie_ball:466404411535785995>

@DanConway ideally yes. If you define the resources by needs, not wants ie clothing, food, shelter, medicine etc... of course a modern economy is incapable of supporting this without a universal method of payment