Socialism isnt just a *step stone to communism*

Exactly

Seeing as true marxist communism is a pipe dream

Stateless moneless society

And classless

I do not see how wothout the state

Communism would be the next step by which the state transfers the power to the people. A step we have not yet seen

Destined to either be ruled from within [tyrant] or outside [conquest]

Anarchy does not seem to be possible

I forgot the abolition of classes of course. Vital

It ignored human nature

so qill never be seen

How can you measure the proper allocation of resources without money @Capitán Alatriste ?

Humans always want more, and want their own. That form of communism can never be, because it ignores this basic human condition. And someone will simply take it over.

How do you know how many airports to build and train tracks to lay?

Even Stalin recognized that

As production stagnated. When he awarded people he saw a boost to their production.

Linen also forsaw this

Linen <:Commie_ball:466404411535785995>

@DanConway ideally yes. If you define the resources by needs, not wants ie clothing, food, shelter, medicine etc... of course a modern economy is incapable of supporting this without a universal method of payment

So no would be the answer

If you measure and allocate based solely on that there will be no innovation

You can't

Innovation comes from different factors. Mostly competition, but also from scarcity

Even of the *communist* nations we have seen no innovation outside of militaristic ever came

In communism there is no competition

How can resourses be moved from place to place efficiently enough to not cause issues?

And no reward

So no human motivation

Money is a great indicator of when to build another lane

Or lay another set of tracks

Without this indicator you are blind

Or scarcity and needs

Scarcity usually lesds to human movement rather than new transport

^^^

So unless this all comes with the tyranny of a gov it would collapse quickly with scarcity

So you would let a famine happen to learn where the resources need to go?

Think of the first settlements in the neolithic times. Agriculture is very vasic. However the more the population grows, the more scarcity and pressure there is. So you are forced to innovate to satisfy the growing demands. There is no competition present

Also how can this work if it not global?

The first settlements still moved or sent out long range hunters

Hunter gatherers had less famine than first agricultural societys