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2018-11-04 00:23:40 UTC  

Like, *attempting* to get as many people into that position as possible.

The thing about hardship and its relation to responsibility, is that it has to be completely voluntary for it to even work.

2018-11-04 00:23:55 UTC  

People need to *want* to become a better person

2018-11-04 00:24:08 UTC  

um..maybe

2018-11-04 00:24:22 UTC  

And I think that for a majority of humans, that will never be the case

2018-11-04 00:24:41 UTC  

The old "sheep, wolves, and sheepdogs" thing

2018-11-04 00:25:30 UTC  

which is why i was talking about this in the context of fascism

2018-11-04 00:25:44 UTC  

it almost needs to be forced

2018-11-04 00:25:48 UTC  

true, but it doesn't sound very fascist lol

2018-11-04 00:25:57 UTC  

Authoritarian, yes

2018-11-04 00:26:11 UTC  

okay, sure

2018-11-04 00:26:18 UTC  

that is a better word

2018-11-04 00:26:56 UTC  

Which is why i brought up stratocracy unironically, because this is the exact phenomenon that Heinlein was talking about in the pre-history of Starship Troopers

2018-11-04 00:27:30 UTC  

Prosperity leads to decadence, which leads to a slow collapse of responsiblity

2018-11-04 00:27:37 UTC  

Yet, responsibility can't be forced

2018-11-04 00:27:51 UTC  

exactly

2018-11-04 00:29:03 UTC  

So even if we could have a societal mechanism which indoctrinated everyone into having the toolkit necessary to take on responsibility, very few still would, and now you'd have a bunch of angry young adults on your hands because you forced them through this

2018-11-04 00:29:39 UTC  

well, you would need to be able to back it up

2018-11-04 00:29:48 UTC  

and do it at an early age

2018-11-04 00:29:51 UTC  

with love

2018-11-04 00:30:09 UTC  

you want them to feel a part of it

2018-11-04 00:30:21 UTC  

not alienate them

2018-11-04 00:30:44 UTC  

i dont see it as a punishment

2018-11-04 00:31:09 UTC  

and if done right they wouldn't either

2018-11-04 00:33:30 UTC  

i mean, is there a way to raise kids without making them resent you?
i think so

2018-11-04 00:36:07 UTC  

Yeah, but that's 150mil different sets of parents

2018-11-04 01:12:03 UTC  

You know parents tried that. It was "Be your kids friend." And "4 to 8 year olds have high rationality process." Ideologies

2018-11-04 01:12:18 UTC  

What did that get us. The sjw/socialists

2018-11-04 01:13:34 UTC  

I think he meant, that you can raise your child in a harsh environment that builds character, while simultaneously being a good parent

2018-11-04 01:14:58 UTC  

Ah

2018-11-04 11:07:46 UTC  

>nationalise homes

2018-11-04 11:08:02 UTC  

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2018-11-04 11:55:59 UTC  

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