Message from @MountainMan

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2018-11-08 20:11:11 UTC  

I dont read sjw

2018-11-08 20:11:43 UTC  

ok he basically didnt deserve all the shit he's gotten

2018-11-08 20:11:45 UTC  

it isnt that bad

2018-11-08 20:11:54 UTC  

Ok

2018-11-08 20:12:26 UTC  

all he does is talk about him being mad over a mosque

2018-11-08 20:22:20 UTC  

Im still trying to understand how a state that basically makes getting food stamps a high school degree requirement turns down a ban on food taxes.

2018-11-08 20:38:56 UTC  

I still don't understand why Californians essentially said "Please, give us more gas tax, daddy! Oh, it feels so good! Yeah, repair those roads!"

2018-11-08 20:39:16 UTC  

Like, California already HAD a tax on gas specifically to repair roads, and no one was repairing any fucking roads

2018-11-08 20:39:36 UTC  

and jerry brown had PROMISED not to add taxes without voter approval, and he added the gas tax on top of the gas tax anyway

2018-11-08 20:39:49 UTC  

and voters said "Yeah, that sounds legit."

2018-11-08 20:40:09 UTC  

Do Leftists not fucking drive? I know they don't work, but they drive, right?

2018-11-08 20:41:07 UTC  

They ride bikes. At least in portland. Our gas tax for roads keeps going to bike lanes

2018-11-08 20:41:07 UTC  

why drive when you can be a part of bus and train gang

2018-11-08 20:41:17 UTC  

<:makes_you_think:382980749780844554>

2018-11-08 20:42:16 UTC  

The only bikes on the road that i've ever seen commuting in LA and the surrounding areas are middle-class middle-aged dudes who are fully decked out in biking gear

2018-11-08 20:42:42 UTC  

You know, people who work

2018-11-08 20:43:11 UTC  

why work when you can live on welfare

2018-11-08 20:43:14 UTC  

<:makes_you_think:382980749780844554>

2018-11-08 20:43:31 UTC  

But Leftists still have to drive - are they going to blame Drumpf for the gas prices now? I bet they will.

2018-11-08 20:43:47 UTC  

who is getting the blame when gas runs out

2018-11-08 20:43:59 UTC  

Gavin Gruesome is even WORSE than Jerry Brown so more taxes to come

2018-11-08 20:44:30 UTC  

tax time

I think my nob just inverted

2018-11-08 21:35:26 UTC  

>Assuming she has a husband to vote for

2018-11-09 00:03:19 UTC  

Gillum hasnt lost yet. He resended his resignation

2018-11-09 00:03:26 UTC  

They are going to a recount

2018-11-09 00:05:23 UTC  

Honestly if you consced that should be it. No "taking it back" cause obviously you dont care enough

2018-11-09 00:05:47 UTC  

NO TAKES BACKSIES!!

2018-11-09 01:11:18 UTC  

@Deleted User That is actually a very interesting question and had me thinking for a while. So my response is the following.

I would say that as a society, Communism has more merit *ideally*, and that term is important. In an ideal communist society, everyone is equal, you all enjoy pretty much full rights. Your voice is heard and has weight in the decisions of the workplace, city, region and country. You are free, and have no oppressor, or any one exploiting you. There is no social mobility because there is only one class, the proletariat. Of course, this is all ideally, and as well all know, unattainable,, and has never been able to be fully implemented properly. I'll get to this later.

Under Feudalism it is quite the opposite. The individual is theoretically "free", they are freemen. However a peasant was still bound to the land it was born in, and had to swear loyalty to its lord. It couldn't move out or leave the land unless he was granted this permission, or that person was without a lord, which was very uncommon. Social mobility was basically null, and you would die in the same position you were born as. The elites, Royalty, Nobility and Clergy would have absolute say in state and regional matters, with no representation of the peasantry. However, when comparing this to that of ideal communism, this system is in fact attainable, and has existed and worked in the past for centuries, pretty much around the world.

2018-11-09 01:11:20 UTC  

However, going back on the discussion of communism, if we are to look at historic and present day examples of "communism", then that society has little to no merit, and in fact pretty much resembles the feudal hierarchy, without the social contract of it. (exchange of services and loyalty) In communist countries of the past you would live in a similar state to feudal Europe. Your freedoms were extremely limited, and you could only respond to your regional commissar. You had very little say in the running of the country or the region and there was a hierarchy in place.

So in conclusion if I had to pick a choice between communism and feudalism as to which one had more merit as a society, then I would pick the *idealised* version of communism. However if you want me to pick on existing examples I wouldn't know what to answer, as both societies were rather close in structure. But if you would really twist my arm, then I would slightly side with communism, simply for the reason that at least in that system there was an actual attempt to improve the lives of the average workers through education, healthcare, housing etc...

2018-11-09 01:14:06 UTC  

> I would say that as a society, Communism has more merit ideally,

You lost me

2018-11-09 01:19:04 UTC  

Jk, but seriously lol

Thing is, the *idealized* communism is a complete fabrication in order to distract from the logical inconsistencies of the system.

The perfectly functioning communist society is still morally vacant, from the fact that people are forced to accept equality for inequal work

2018-11-09 01:19:54 UTC  

That's the thing *ideally*

2018-11-09 01:20:04 UTC  

And we all know, that it's simply unattainable

2018-11-09 01:20:34 UTC  

Maybe I used the wrong word.

There's the *ideal*, and the *perfectly applied*

2018-11-09 01:20:48 UTC  

Both are inattainable

2018-11-09 01:21:11 UTC  

The first one is a blatant lie, like writing "free candy" on a windowless van

2018-11-09 01:29:53 UTC  

Vee does another sargon drama video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVfiPT0W4VU