Message from @Goblin_Slayer_Floki

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2018-12-08 08:22:26 UTC  

The thing is. Saying "it stands regardless is a mosnomer if it hasnt even been ratified in the us yet

2018-12-08 08:22:36 UTC  

Cause this isnt even official yet here

2018-12-08 08:22:44 UTC  

i understand

2018-12-08 08:22:53 UTC  

but we have zero guarantee that Trump will remove the tariff

2018-12-08 08:22:58 UTC  

since it wasnt even mentioned

2018-12-08 08:23:07 UTC  

You can complain if it is still there after congress ratifies

2018-12-08 08:23:21 UTC  

I will ceed it then.

2018-12-08 08:23:30 UTC  

i can complain about how no action was taken to remove it

2018-12-08 08:24:00 UTC  

Tbh its probably trump holding it to ensure t dog doesnt back out

2018-12-08 08:24:13 UTC  

Similar to any against mexico

2018-12-08 08:24:29 UTC  

Especially with mexico having a new pres

2018-12-08 08:24:57 UTC  

you can amend article 232 in USMCA so it automatically eliminates the tariff once all sides ratifies the agreement

2018-12-08 08:25:48 UTC  

I'm reading various articles on the USMCA deal, and I don't see anyone claimung that the deal has "fucked over" Canada or Mexico. In fact they mostly state how it improves worker conditions and inter north american trade

2018-12-08 08:26:12 UTC  

I dont read articles cause spin

2018-12-08 08:26:17 UTC  

Read the deal itself

2018-12-08 08:26:22 UTC  

I am as well

2018-12-08 08:26:46 UTC  

I wanted to read some opinions on it

2018-12-08 08:26:54 UTC  

raising the percent of $16 earners in auto manufacturing will undoubtedly fuck over mexico

2018-12-08 08:27:07 UTC  

significantly too

2018-12-08 08:27:18 UTC  

Yea i really dont see any big fuck yous. And the ones mentioned are conjecture, as it isnt even ratified in the us yet.

2018-12-08 08:27:20 UTC  

And it wont improve worker conditions and stop immigration?

2018-12-08 08:28:03 UTC  

it will shrink their workforce

2018-12-08 08:28:08 UTC  

Raising income for workers and giving them larger union protection is what most workers.would want

2018-12-08 08:28:16 UTC  

those who keeps their jobs will be improved sure

2018-12-08 08:28:49 UTC  

The workforce wont shrink... perhaps you mean employed workers

2018-12-08 08:29:17 UTC  

i ofc am not referring to the entirety of mexican workforce

2018-12-08 08:29:33 UTC  

it will shift auto manfucaturing away from mexico

2018-12-08 08:30:50 UTC  

It depends, It's more benefitial for Mexico to increase the auto industry since a car 75% produced in Mexico will be freed of tariffs

2018-12-08 08:31:11 UTC  

its not up to mexico to increase the auto industry

2018-12-08 08:31:18 UTC  

its up to the auto industry to increase in mexico

2018-12-08 08:31:29 UTC  

with less incentive in the forms of lower wages

2018-12-08 08:31:39 UTC  

they will shift towards Canada or US

2018-12-08 08:31:52 UTC  

The Mexican state can subsidise and incentivise industrial growth in many ways

2018-12-08 08:32:31 UTC  

subsidies are an issue to this and previous agreement

2018-12-08 08:32:39 UTC  

and it will cost mexico regardless

2018-12-08 09:56:20 UTC  

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2018-12-08 09:56:47 UTC  

there is a massive industrial opportunity in mexico

2018-12-08 09:56:59 UTC  

they could build the wall

2018-12-08 11:24:46 UTC  

Take refugees or pay us money... not that the EU is blackmailing or anything...

"Governments would still be obliged to take asylum-seekers from other EU states, but exceptions could be made if countries made “alternative measures of solidarity”.

That EU language is code for paying into the EU budget or paying towards development projects in Africa, diplomats said, and seeks to end divisions between EU states such as Germany, which are willing to take in refugees, and eastern countries such as Hungary, who reject granting asylum. "
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-europe-migrants/france-and-germany-soften-demands-on-eu-hosting-refugees-document-idUSKBN1O51X9