Message from @Goblin_Slayer_Floki

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2018-12-08 08:20:37 UTC  

the tariffs are still up

2018-12-08 08:20:38 UTC  

The thing is this has to be verified via congress

2018-12-08 08:20:46 UTC  

ik

2018-12-08 08:20:48 UTC  

Its not effective on the us side yet

2018-12-08 08:21:05 UTC  

Once it is. It supperceeds it and those tarriffs vanish

2018-12-08 08:21:14 UTC  

it still would not supercede it because the article of NAFTA used to impose the tariff is still in place

2018-12-08 08:21:30 UTC  

we did not negotiate to close the article

2018-12-08 08:21:35 UTC  

iirc article 232 or something

2018-12-08 08:21:36 UTC  

No cause nafta is superceeded by this

2018-12-08 08:21:50 UTC  

The same article exists in here

2018-12-08 08:22:26 UTC  

The thing is. Saying "it stands regardless is a mosnomer if it hasnt even been ratified in the us yet

2018-12-08 08:22:36 UTC  

Cause this isnt even official yet here

2018-12-08 08:22:44 UTC  

i understand

2018-12-08 08:22:53 UTC  

but we have zero guarantee that Trump will remove the tariff

2018-12-08 08:22:58 UTC  

since it wasnt even mentioned

2018-12-08 08:23:07 UTC  

You can complain if it is still there after congress ratifies

2018-12-08 08:23:21 UTC  

I will ceed it then.

2018-12-08 08:23:30 UTC  

i can complain about how no action was taken to remove it

2018-12-08 08:24:00 UTC  

Tbh its probably trump holding it to ensure t dog doesnt back out

2018-12-08 08:24:13 UTC  

Similar to any against mexico

2018-12-08 08:24:29 UTC  

Especially with mexico having a new pres

2018-12-08 08:24:57 UTC  

you can amend article 232 in USMCA so it automatically eliminates the tariff once all sides ratifies the agreement

2018-12-08 08:25:48 UTC  

I'm reading various articles on the USMCA deal, and I don't see anyone claimung that the deal has "fucked over" Canada or Mexico. In fact they mostly state how it improves worker conditions and inter north american trade

2018-12-08 08:26:12 UTC  

I dont read articles cause spin

2018-12-08 08:26:17 UTC  

Read the deal itself

2018-12-08 08:26:22 UTC  

I am as well

2018-12-08 08:26:46 UTC  

I wanted to read some opinions on it

2018-12-08 08:26:54 UTC  

raising the percent of $16 earners in auto manufacturing will undoubtedly fuck over mexico

2018-12-08 08:27:07 UTC  

significantly too

2018-12-08 08:27:18 UTC  

Yea i really dont see any big fuck yous. And the ones mentioned are conjecture, as it isnt even ratified in the us yet.

2018-12-08 08:27:20 UTC  

And it wont improve worker conditions and stop immigration?

2018-12-08 08:28:03 UTC  

it will shrink their workforce

2018-12-08 08:28:08 UTC  

Raising income for workers and giving them larger union protection is what most workers.would want

2018-12-08 08:28:16 UTC  

those who keeps their jobs will be improved sure

2018-12-08 08:28:49 UTC  

The workforce wont shrink... perhaps you mean employed workers

2018-12-08 08:29:17 UTC  

i ofc am not referring to the entirety of mexican workforce

2018-12-08 08:29:33 UTC  

it will shift auto manfucaturing away from mexico

2018-12-08 08:30:50 UTC  

It depends, It's more benefitial for Mexico to increase the auto industry since a car 75% produced in Mexico will be freed of tariffs

2018-12-08 08:31:11 UTC  

its not up to mexico to increase the auto industry

2018-12-08 08:31:18 UTC  

its up to the auto industry to increase in mexico