That argument makes me hate immigrants even more

yeah

lol

well basically the culture changes if birth rates go too far down i guess

because immigrants will change it

No, the culture is fine

Immigration changes it

well the culture will change with migrants

Then don't bring in migrants

alternative is that, because birth rates are low, then welfare can't be supported

You don't need welfare with less people, because then employment is scarce and wages go up

lol yea

but the argument is that they can't pay their taxes

because taxes have to go up

It's a false equivalency

along with wages

how is it false tho

more people in retirement means more taxes needed to support them

The argument is that you need migrants to replace your population, to support the old people

yeah but lets look at the context surrounding that argument

If people earn more, then you get more taxes, yes?

the argument is longer than that

the conclusion to the argument is you need more migrants

If people earn more, that means more people in higher tax brackets

and that culture change is inevitable

Says who?

You?

unless birth rates of natives can be encouraged

well i say that, because when there's a large amount of immigration, it happens

which you agreed with

Sounds like you've swallowed too much soyboy jizz

haha no

read my argument

I did

did you

The whole premise is wrong

okay, well your argument was that wages would go up because employment is down

but taxes will also have to rise

will wages be enough to pay for the taxes needed

for the retirement budget

because govt is at least going to have support the poor in retirement