and we did just order 5 of this ones https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_P-8_Poseidon that did make trump a happy man

the man sold rice to china

selling some plans probably was a piece of cake

well we had ordered them regardless of what president as they are replacing the aging P-3 Orion plains

the world's militaries are ageing

yea, at Norway have started to upgrade it stuff the last 10 years

we've been trying

*poor f-35*

we are waiting on them as well

although I did like the whole variant idea shit

different for the navy and airforce

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiLmxTlG0B4

sweden is able to fix its welfare problem by taking in migrants (assuming they can get employed, it works)

though they'd have to actually tax the poor (canada doesn't)

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i love how leftists aren't giving that argument for immigration

i guess they get shouted down by cummies

commies*

cummies

That argument makes me hate immigrants even more

yeah

lol

well basically the culture changes if birth rates go too far down i guess

because immigrants will change it

No, the culture is fine

Immigration changes it

well the culture will change with migrants

Then don't bring in migrants

alternative is that, because birth rates are low, then welfare can't be supported

You don't need welfare with less people, because then employment is scarce and wages go up

lol yea

but the argument is that they can't pay their taxes

because taxes have to go up

It's a false equivalency

along with wages

how is it false tho

more people in retirement means more taxes needed to support them

The argument is that you need migrants to replace your population, to support the old people

yeah but lets look at the context surrounding that argument

If people earn more, then you get more taxes, yes?

the argument is longer than that