Thing is, I dont view mixed economies as socialist. Thats why I dont view the natsocs as socialists. I see them as natsocs.

Both are retards tho. Dont get me wrong. <:GWcorbinTopKek:384871333705678868>

But then again, I'm not an expert in politics. And my definition could very well be wrong.

Scandinavian nations are very capitalist

yes. but still have a lot of welfare.

education and healthcare are also nationalized.

they're called mixed economies

now this https://twitter.com/PoliticPlumbus/status/1098660154008948736

Having a lot of welfare doesn’t say that they are socialist

Scandinavian nations are social democracies

With very deregulated markets

Nazi germany on the other hand had a very regulated market mixed economy and socialist policies

yes. they arent socialists. I have said this before lmao. we're repeating eachother.

And it was a totalitarian dictatorship

Ok

So?

yeah. but the dictator wasnt an elite from the proletariat tho.

Still a dictator

Doesn’t make it any better

yeah dosent make it any better. just makes it different.

I think most forms of central planning/centralization/consolidation of power in the world for the last ~100 years are/were bad because the planning committees are run by either A) fucktard mouth breathers, B) Criminals/subversives or C) both

I didn’t say he was a communist

Socialism isn’t communism

Socialism is seizing the means of production

Which is gay

what I was thinking about with hitler vs stalin, ideologically, is that they seemed to be under the same/similar ideological umbrella of centrally planned, command and control nonsense (which I, perhaps incorrectly, labelled socialism?)... I think?

socialism is the means to get to communism. (and what you said)

Nah

Being a communist is the means to get to communism

yes. communism in marx book is when every individual stops thinking about themselves, and cares about the collective good. socialism is the way to get to a communist society.

socialism is the gateway

I mean Marx had many good points

Not about communism

with the end goal being totalitarian communism/statism

But critiques of capitalism and how workers should be treated to make society better

and in his view, you need to turn people into communists. you do this by either reforming the system slowly, or revolution. and you need to foster the population into communism.

His critiques helped end the problems with capitalism

which is what I think is happening in the US now

or has been for hte last several decades

he could've been right, had he foreseen the massive global trade.