Message from @Militant
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And it was a totalitarian dictatorship
Ok
So?
yeah. but the dictator wasnt an elite from the proletariat tho.
Still a dictator
Doesn’t make it any better
yeah dosent make it any better. just makes it different.
I think most forms of central planning/centralization/consolidation of power in the world for the last ~100 years are/were bad because the planning committees are run by either A) fucktard mouth breathers, B) Criminals/subversives or C) both
I didn’t say he was a communist
Socialism isn’t communism
Socialism is seizing the means of production
Which is gay
what I was thinking about with hitler vs stalin, ideologically, is that they seemed to be under the same/similar ideological umbrella of centrally planned, command and control nonsense (which I, perhaps incorrectly, labelled socialism?)... I think?
socialism is the means to get to communism. (and what you said)
Nah
Being a communist is the means to get to communism
yes. communism in marx book is when every individual stops thinking about themselves, and cares about the collective good. socialism is the way to get to a communist society.
socialism is the gateway
I mean Marx had many good points
with the end goal being totalitarian communism/statism
But critiques of capitalism and how workers should be treated to make society better
and in his view, you need to turn people into communists. you do this by either reforming the system slowly, or revolution. and you need to foster the population into communism.
His critiques helped end the problems with capitalism
which is what I think is happening in the US now
or has been for hte last several decades
he could've been right, had he foreseen the massive global trade.
he believed there would be another revolution.
where the workers would rise against the company owners.
It’s actually very interesting
Watch the video
It’s ten mins
I might have seen it. I watch TSL quite often.
I'll watch it again
interesting video - maybe Marx hadn't contemplated how massively corruptible societies can be... that the poor/working class would generally do the exact same things that the rich would do if given the opportunity
great vid. it was worth the rewatch.
like AOC or rutger bregman talking about soaking the rich rather than looking at the issues of governance (and the natural corruptibility thereof) that allowed the rich to attain their positions in the first place.
1 Brexiter (Ella Whelan) and 4 Remain on this week's panel, imagine my shock...
https://twitter.com/bbcquestiontime/status/1098628567167045632
"journalist"