Message from @Thomas the Sowell Train [USA]
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Hitler tried to achieve atrarky in military industry
Through planned economy like in the ussr
yeah that sounds pretty socialist to me
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I mean otherwise.... why call yourselves socialists of any variety?
He also had nationalized resources education and healthcare
So he had a mixed economy pretty much
mixed economy aint socialist tho.
by your classification, the scandinavian nations would also be socialist.
when I think socialism, I think of government with large centralized control that dictates to the citizenry/private economy
maybe that's not right?
When I think socialist nation I imagine a fully planned economy with no individual private property nor any private sector.
yeah I think at least partially planned economy and limited or otherwise covertly controlled private sector
Thing is, I dont view mixed economies as socialist. Thats why I dont view the natsocs as socialists. I see them as natsocs.
Both are retards tho. Dont get me wrong. <:GWcorbinTopKek:384871333705678868>
But then again, I'm not an expert in politics. And my definition could very well be wrong.
Scandinavian nations are very capitalist
yes. but still have a lot of welfare.
education and healthcare are also nationalized.
they're called mixed economies
Having a lot of welfare doesn’t say that they are socialist
Scandinavian nations are social democracies
With very deregulated markets
Nazi germany on the other hand had a very regulated market mixed economy and socialist policies
yes. they arent socialists. I have said this before lmao. we're repeating eachother.
And it was a totalitarian dictatorship
Ok
So?
yeah. but the dictator wasnt an elite from the proletariat tho.
Still a dictator
Doesn’t make it any better
yeah dosent make it any better. just makes it different.
I think most forms of central planning/centralization/consolidation of power in the world for the last ~100 years are/were bad because the planning committees are run by either A) fucktard mouth breathers, B) Criminals/subversives or C) both
I didn’t say he was a communist
Socialism isn’t communism
Socialism is seizing the means of production
Which is gay
what I was thinking about with hitler vs stalin, ideologically, is that they seemed to be under the same/similar ideological umbrella of centrally planned, command and control nonsense (which I, perhaps incorrectly, labelled socialism?)... I think?
socialism is the means to get to communism. (and what you said)