Gotcha

Pretty shitty

Which state has the nukes?

Fallout styke

@Ondsinet I said "yep" to your "sorry?", but no to your summary

@Fitzydog yeah I got it thanks

Lots of states have nukes

They're almost all in red States lol

Oof

Thing is, the states who are pushing for this won't back down.

This isn't going to go away

@Fitzydog Would you say it’s time to “Fortunate Son” California.

@meratrix More than that

Why does UKIP not allow former bnp members to join them?

Cause they're optics cucks

Oh, I googled it

Yikes

Also @Fitzydog I watched that video and yeah I agree with him

I was just saying that personally I probably wouldn't have the nerve to shoot someone

And self defence is obviously a good idea, because the moment someone violates your right to life, they lose theirs, but personally I wouldn't take theirs to save mine

Well that's fine. But the overlying philosophical concepts are what's important.

This is why we have guns, and not tasers

Doesn't mean I wouldn't defend myself

I'd probably just try to run but I'm shit at that too so I guess taser it is

Imo tasers are enough but maybe I'm wrong and guns are the way to go

But as far as I know tasers aren't really lethal unless you overdo it, whereas a bullet can be lethal even if it doesn't hit the heart or brain or whatever

Like if I just try to handicap an assailant I'd go for the leg or something, but my aim might be bad and I could kill him by accident

Even tho I didn't mean to

But then you get into a weird area, that by not defending yourself through the use of deadly force, you are thus delegating that to someone else nearby, against their will.

Are you willing to shrug off your self defense onto someone else? Is that fair?

Well no

I just don't think deadly force is usually necessary

But then I've never been in that situation so I don't know

Just disarming someone should be enough imo, and somehow stunning them to prevent their escape until the cops arrive

Escalation of force is entirely necessary, when the assailant is using deadly force against you as well.

Well, *if* he does use deadly force on me then it would be fair for me to use that on him as well

Idk I've never had my house broken in to sooo

I'm just speaking hypothetically

That's what we're talking about here though.

Also, home invasions, where you don't know the intention of the assailant, so you have to assume they intend to use deadly force

> @TheShréktEffect
> use deadly force

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