The problem I have with "America" "Cascadia" and even "National Socialism" is that they are all irrevocably tied to petite and bourgeois nationalism, N.S. to the former and America to the latter. Cascadia is actually linked to pretty much nothing.

I would love to hear more about your alternative when time affords us that luxury in the near future.

Eric Thompson coined a phrase and Acronym that concisely conveys my sense of identity: ORION - Our Race Is Our Nation

Which I fully endorse & I don't see that as being at odds with NS.

.... and whether I like it or not, this notion of identity has been the spoken and unspoken credo for at least the last three thousand years.

Oh, I'm not at all at odds with N.S.

The other part of my reluctance to stand forth and proclaim myself a Nazi is an attempted sense of modesty, propriety, humility and general good manners.

Almost all of which I lack. I say half way kidding.

For me NS is a spiritual doctrine. That's the door I entered all of this through after a lifetime of nihilism

The original N.S., in my book are in the same class as the 300 Spartans who made their stand at Thermopylae. Anyone still alive and claiming to be them is probably a very good candidate for an ass kicking.

So there we may disagree on our interpretation of it & Thus have arrived at different outcomes of appropriate responses.

It's interesting to me tha nihilism has come up. I've been trying to get a better grip on the concept of "active nihilism" which I've seen attributed to both Nietzsche and Evola's "Ride the Tiger".

@Jimmy Marr what's missing for me in your msg is the Soil half of Blood & Soil. You say Cascadia is linked to pretty much nothing, an argument that again lacks the Soil. But as an immigrant, I guess that's what I should expect from you...

No, @My Name Is Hate , we don't disagree on your definition of N.S.. I understand you perfectly well and respect your interpretation. It's more a matter that I feel like in our public relations we are best off to use words that correspond to their definitions in the standard lexicon whether or not we agree with them

Ah. The dirty "socialism" word

Yeah, I'm a post-soil kinda guy at this juncture.

@Jimmy Marr ^^^ Ashland Jack for the win

That was meant for your prior response

Yeah socialism is in the lexicon, too, and that's a problem, but I see the bigger problem as the connotation of a different nation (Germany) in a different era.

I think I'm with you @blackhat 16

Thread's moving a bit fast for an old man

Strictly as a metaphor, should Christians abandon Christ or the cross simply bc he was from a different era or locale? If a Christian follows that set of beliefs should they forsake the founder of their doctrine or it's symbols bc it has become "socially difficult"?

3...2...1...

I'm not saying N.S. is socially difficult, I'm saying I don't think it accurately describes who we are.

To me calling oneself an N.S. is not like being a christian. It's like calling yourself Christ.

Alright so there we do differ. You are dealing with all the fanaticism of the converted when dealing with me, I admit that. NS saved my life-period. Being that I am living days only granted to me through this awakening & spiritual epiphany, I have dedicated the remainder of my days to this most sacred of causes. For me we will be born again & again from era to era bc we are aligned with the one truth. I do not pretend to know "Christ" or compare myself to him, but I do intend to try & follow his works & example to the best of my humble abilities.

Are you talking about Hitler or Christ, or are they one and the same to you?

Well I am most assuredly not talking about Christ. But I was using that metaphor yes.

I see, so how is it that you feel we differ?

I don't see it as a "problem" to use the term that he himself used to describe his world view.

If it makes folks uncomfortable or has negative connotations. I tend to say that's everyone else's problem.

I see.

But to be fair perennialist/NS/fascist all mean the same thing to me, so I could probably just as easily use one of those labels, or even Sanatana Dharma, but given my nature I usually opt for the most cut & dry method.

I've got further logic behind the choice but I don't need to bore you with it here.

As you know, Serrano referred to this spirit as Lucifer-Wotan, and saw Hitler and the N.S. movement as on temporal manifestation of it. Typically the nomenclature of the spirit changes with the age in which in manifests.

The esoterists know it's the same thing, but the exoterics do not.

I don't dispute that. I dispute that we are in a different age. We are in the immediate shadow of its last arrival. I view us as being like the very early Christians to use the same tired metaphor that's never the less easy to understand. It is for us to carry the faith forward despite being fed to the lions. When the W.ill O.f T.he A.ryan N.ations manifest itself again, if at that point it chooses to associate new signs & symbols to our divine struggle then it will be up to that eras ppl to accept or reject.

But I do think there's no escape from the swastika tbh. You're as familiar as I am, I'm sure with its ancient ties to our ppl.

I don't even want to escape it. I love it. It's just a matter of where, when and in what context I want to display it, and whether or not I refer to myself as a N.S. while I'm doing it.

Right, there is some gray area to be had in between Manson forehead tattoos & hidden flags in closets. Again I have never excelled at grey, 40 years of black or white, so middle of the road is an admitted weak point for me. I suppose the argument that I'm making (along with a few others in this chat) Is that we will only ever really reach the revolutionary soul. The very thing that is a repellent to the average bald ape will act as bait to those souls accustomed to & comfortable with acting outside of the accepted norms, the revolutionary. My favorite part of Siege comes to mind "The crazy men of destiny"
That's who I'm on the look for.

I believe I'm talking to one of them now.