Message from @Fitzydog

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2018-10-19 23:10:36 UTC  

what, 12 rules?

2018-10-19 23:10:46 UTC  

No. Starship troopers

2018-10-19 23:10:58 UTC  

I was always told the book was boring

2018-10-19 23:11:04 UTC  

I wanna at least watch the movie (somehow I've missed it) before I watch sargon's video

2018-10-19 23:11:16 UTC  

I kept putting it off under the assumption the video was never coming

2018-10-19 23:11:24 UTC  

Eh I don't think person is right I lack the philosophical training to fully elaborate why but what he says generally doesn't line up with my experience in life.

2018-10-19 23:11:28 UTC  

That video was fucking fantastic

2018-10-19 23:11:32 UTC  

I wanna get my own opinion

2018-10-19 23:11:44 UTC  

It was pretty good.

2018-10-19 23:11:57 UTC  

The video that is

2018-10-19 23:12:00 UTC  

That and he also a weird type of religious.

2018-10-19 23:12:30 UTC  

Like, philosophically religious instead of just "im a Christian"?

2018-10-19 23:12:36 UTC  

Yes

2018-10-19 23:13:16 UTC  

Its not that wierd its just most people are bad at elaborating on it. In my experience alot of converts think like Peterson to some extent about religion.

2018-10-19 23:13:46 UTC  

My grandparents for example when I started asking them about it.

2018-10-19 23:14:06 UTC  

Okay May be no then, I differ on what truth is. He has a religious outlook on what truth can be philosophically speaking.

2018-10-19 23:15:05 UTC  

Ah. Idk much about that. Havnt watched a peterson lecture in about half a year.

2018-10-19 23:17:07 UTC  

I seen every single lecture and any video he's bothered to record. 12 Rules for life will work but I don't think they will work for people who are not already trying to implement some form of them.Before they even read his book it only helps those people put them in order.

2018-10-19 23:17:42 UTC  

Peterson is a classic Christian Deist from the sound of it

2018-10-19 23:18:04 UTC  

He's definitely a deist but he doesn't think God is an entity in and of itself

2018-10-19 23:18:13 UTC  

Right, that's deism

2018-10-19 23:18:21 UTC  

Use it more as a metaphor for a guiding purpose

2018-10-19 23:18:41 UTC  

Collective unconcious more like

2018-10-19 23:19:11 UTC  

Boi you just say what I say only smarter! I will fite you

2018-10-19 23:19:17 UTC  

lol

2018-10-19 23:20:01 UTC  

basically, there's shit engrained into our moral compasses as humans that is as standard as having 5 fingers

Some people call that 'god'

2018-10-19 23:20:40 UTC  

On that basis I would absolutely have to disagree people's moral compasses are different between people

2018-10-19 23:21:10 UTC  

Not disagree with that you said I actually disagree with Peatrson view

2018-10-19 23:21:55 UTC  

No, that's the extra layering on top. Below even that surface there are things we have in common, but more like as relative symbology of our relation to our social group

2018-10-19 23:22:10 UTC  

The dominance heirarchy, if you will

2018-10-19 23:22:31 UTC  

Something interesting about Peterson

2018-10-19 23:22:34 UTC  

Yeah that's my point some people literally do not have that at all and will completely opt out of the dominance hierarchy

2018-10-19 23:22:38 UTC  

compare his bill c16 videos to now

2018-10-19 23:22:46 UTC  

he's got this almost tangible intensity to him now

2018-10-19 23:23:06 UTC  

he's lost weight and gained some definition in nearly everything he does. I'm certain he's got a personal tailor of some form or another to always keep him sharp.

2018-10-19 23:23:19 UTC  

And he's refined the fuck out of his speaking

2018-10-19 23:23:28 UTC  

@flyingfoxel But they're the odd ones out.

I think that's something unique to humans however that can't be overlooked. Our ability to abstract about our position within the heirarchy

2018-10-19 23:23:36 UTC  

if this sounds a little fanboyish, I know, but in the four-way chat between JBP, weinstein, shapiro and rubin

2018-10-19 23:23:42 UTC  

What you turn to a public speaker like that you pretty much have to otherwise people will destroy you say pretty harshly

2018-10-19 23:23:45 UTC  

the latter three were rather casual and off the cuff as they were

2018-10-19 23:24:03 UTC  

but whenever it turns to JBP (I listen to rubin audio-only usually) you can like, feel him thinking his thoughts